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Here is her take on the matter... http://propagandalalaland.blogspot.com/2012/07/things-get-rough.html bg --- In [email protected], Dan Clore <clore@...> wrote: > > On 7/26/2012 9:44 AM, Bill wrote: > > I was involved in the online debate months ago (not the recent debate > > on facebook) representing a left-libertarian perspective. > > It might also be worth mentioning that the Julia Riber Pitt mentioned is > an anti-capitalist anarchist interested in mutualism. > > > bg > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Dan Clore <clore@> > > wrote: > >> > >> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists: > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo > >> > >> http://freekeene.com/2012/07/23/has-there-really-been-a-schism-in-occupy-new-hampshire-over-the-free-state-project/ > >> > >> > Has there really been a schism in Occupy New Hampshire over the Free > >> State Project? July 23, 2012 by Ian Filed under: National, New > >> Hampshire, News > >> > >> The last two weeks have resulted in unexpected press coverage for > >> Occupy New Hampshire as a splinter group made lots of noise > >> recently about why they have left. Too bad for them, most of Occupy > >> did not go with them, as most of Occupy are open-minded folks who > >> value the participation of “Free Staters†. Here’s the Concord > >> Monitor’s Annmarie Timmins’ rundown of the situation, > >> (published in Sunday 7/22′s paper) which is a well-researched > >> story: > >> > >> Occupy New Hampshire, the self-dubbed voice of the “99 > >> percent,†became a bit more exclusive this week. > >> > >> On Monday, a small number of Occupy New Hampshire members > >> incorporated the movement as a nonprofit in order to boot their > >> former bedfellows: the Free Staters. Also prohibited from future > >> Occupy events are gun owners who openly carry. > >> > >> It’s been a controversial move for a group so opposed to > >> authoritative rule, and several Occupy members have joined with the > >> Free Staters to fight back. They will gather this morning at 11 on > >> the State House lawn to decide what comes next. > >> > >> The issue? > >> > >> Mark Provost of Manchester, one of the five directors of the newly > >> created nonprofit, said Occupy’s mission and that of the Free > >> State Project cannot co-exist. And seeing guns at Occupy events > >> have made some Occupiers nervous. > >> > >> “The core of Occupy is social justice and economic > >> inequality,†Provost said. “On the issue of civil liberties and > >> anti-war, there is agreement (with the Free Staters.) But the core > >> message is the economic justice, and that is where we see the big > >> difference.†> >> > >> Provost pointed to legislative efforts this session by Free > >> Staters to weaken unions and to their support for deep cuts to the > >> state budget. > >> > >> Tug of war Given the Facebook discussions since Provost and the > >> others filed corporation papers, it’s not likely to be an > >> amicable split. More likely, this is the start of a tug of war over > >> what the Occupy movement becomes in New Hampshire. > >> > >> “If the people associated with the (Free State Project) want to > >> move here, fine,†wrote Occupy member Julia Riber Pitt of Salem > >> in a Facebook post last week. “But when they do things that upset > >> the rest of NH’s 1.3 million people, they deserve to be called > >> out and shunned.†> >> > >> Ryan Glen Hirsch, an Occupy member from Pelham, responded to Pitt > >> and others on the same Facebook thread: “You have no authority > >> over me. I have no authority over you. You can choose to associate > >> with me or not, but I am still just as much a member of OccupyNH as > >> you.†> > >> (Annmarie Timmins can be reached at 369-3323, atimmins@ or on > >> Twitter @annmarietimmins.) > >> > >> > >> -- Dan Clore > >> > >> New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_: > >> http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw My collected fiction: _The Unspeakable > >> and Others_ http://tinyurl.com/3tyj9cq Lord Weÿrdgliffe & > >> Necronomicon Page: http://tinyurl.com/292yz9 News & Views for > >> Anarchists & Activists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo > >> > >> Skipper: Professor, will you tell these people who is in charge on > >> this island? Professor: Why, no one. Skipper: No one? Thurston > >> Howell III: No one? Good heavens, this is anarchy! -- _Gilligan's > >> Island_, episode #6, "President Gilligan" > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dan Clore > > New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_: > http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw > My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_: > http://tinyurl.com/3tyj9cq > Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page: > http://tinyurl.com/292yz9 > News & Views for Anarchists & Activists: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo > > Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the > immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind. > -- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms" > __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (8) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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