"Here we come to the crux of the
matter: Romney-Ryan say the Obama administration is projecting
“weakness,” that they are letting the Iranians get away with assembling
the components of a nuclear weapon, and that they aren’t doing enough to
stop it. So what do they want? Biden went for
the jugular:
"“When Governor Romney’s asked about it, he said, we got to keep
these sanctions. When they said, well, you’re talking about doing more,
what are you are you you’re going to go to war? Is that you want to
do now?”
"“We want to prevent war!” said Ryan, but it wasn’t very
convincing: his mouth spoke peace, but his eyes told a different story.
In that moment he looked like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie
jar.
"Biden performed a real public service as he patiently explained
that the mere possession of “fissile material” does not equal having a
bomb: although he felt obligated to include
the Israelis when describing the official assessment of how far along
the Iranians are in the process, the reality is that our own intelligence
community has
consistently said the Iranians gave up their nuclear weapons program
in 2003, and they have yet to revise that opinion (in spite of lots of
pressure to do so).
"Ryan’s answer to this was “they are spinning the centrifuges
faster” a nonsensical statement that means nothing. At which point one
began to wonder: is this really the man Republicans want to put one
heartbeat away from the presidency?"
The Creaming of Paul Ryan
A pleasure to behold
by
Justin Raimondo,
October 15, 2012
In the first exchange of the presidential election season over foreign
policy issues, the neocons in the person of GOP vice presidential
candidate Paul Ryan
got creamed.
That’s the good news.
The bad news is that Ryan got creamed by
Joe Biden who serves in an administration that is pursuing
each and every one of the neocons’ policy goals, and doing a much
better job of it than George W. Bush ever did.
Ah, but these days we must take our pleasures where we find them, and who
can deny it was fun watching the amateurish Ryan stammer as he tried to
remember the talking points the neocons had drilled him on. One fully
expected his ears to start fluttering and helicopter him outta there.
Martha Raddatz, a respected reporter who specializes in the Middle
East, moderated and her first question was about Libya: wasn’t this a
“massive intelligence failure” on the part of the administration?
If you’ll recall, the administration in the person of UN ambassador
Susan Rice first came out with a statement attributing the Benghazi
attack to a protest over the “Innocence” video that got out of hand. And
my regular readers will further
recall that I said the administration would soon backtrack on this,
which they did. And you’ll note Biden didn’t say the attack was
pre-planned: he just brushed the question aside, went on the offensive
against Romney whose
premature public statement on Benghazi was patently unpresidential
and signaled his strategy with a very effective concluding statement:
“The last thing we need is another war.”
That’s because both Romney and Ryan believe the first thing we need is
another war, despite Ryan’s protestations at the debate. In his answer to
Biden, Ryan sighed and whined like an undergraduate arguing with his
professor over a failed grade: well sure “we agreed with the Obama
administration” on
getting out of Iraq, except … they didn’t. Because, you see,
Washington “failed to get a Status of Forces agreement.”
Is Ryan suggesting we should have somehow
forced the Iraqis to sign the agreement? It’s not clear, nor is it
clear what the differences are on Afghanistan, where, Ryan averred, “we
agree with a 2014 transition” except, we really don’t, because, you
see, “we also want to … make sure that we’re not projecting weakness
abroad, and that’s what’s happening here.”
Translation: You need a microscope to discover the differences between
the two tickets on these issues.
Asked about how appropriate it was for Governor Romney to accuse the
President of “weakness” and making “apologies,” as Raddatz put it, “right
in the middle of the crisis,” Ryan evaded the question, denounced the
lack of security at the Benghazi consulate, said we should have spoken
out in support of Iran’s “Green Revolution,” accused the administration
of describing Bashar al-Assad as a “reformer,” and decried “devastating
defense cuts.” The doe-eyed Republican pin-up boy probably has no idea
the leaders of Iran’s “Green Revolution” have
the same
position on the nuclear issue as the ayatollahs: his
neocon handlers probably thought this tidbit might complicate the
narrative unnecessarily.
Biden’s answer was
nearly an early knockout blow, as he informed the audience Ryan had
voted to cut $300 million from the embassy security budget “so much for
the embassy security piece,” he said with a smile. I almost felt sorry
for Ryan: he looked like a student being lectured by his professor on the
subject of why one always ought to do one’s homework.
And he obviously didn’t do his homework, falsely accusing the
administration of not sanctioning Iran’s central bank: Biden went after
him on that one,
bragging about how these are the “harshest” sanctions against Iran
or any country ever. Desperate to score points, Ryan even cited the
alleged “terrorist attack” against the Saudi ambassador supposedly
planned by a used car salesman in the US in conjunction with the Iranian
Revolutionary Guards. Of course, the fact that the accused man, one
Mansoor Arbabsiar, has been diagnosed with a mental illness may cause
serious people to take the charges less … seriously. There was one
Bizarro World
moment when Ryan’s confusion was particularly apparent as he demanded
that the “military option” against Iran be put “on the table” even as he
averred that “the key is to do this peacefully.”
Huh?
Here we come to the crux of the matter: Romney-Ryan say the Obama
administration is projecting “weakness,” that they are letting the
Iranians get away with assembling the components of a nuclear weapon, and
that they aren’t doing enough to stop it. So what do they want? Biden
went for
the jugular:
“When Governor Romney’s asked about it, he said, we got to keep these
sanctions. When they said, well, you’re talking about doing more, what
are you are you you’re going to go to war? Is that you want to do
now?”
“We want to prevent war!” said Ryan, but it wasn’t very convincing:
his mouth spoke peace, but his eyes told a different story. In that
moment he looked like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Biden performed a real public service as he patiently explained that the
mere possession of “fissile material” does not equal having a bomb:
although he felt obligated to include
the Israelis when describing the official assessment of how far along
the Iranians are in the process, the reality is that our own intelligence
community has
consistently said the Iranians gave up their nuclear weapons program
in 2003, and they have yet to revise that opinion (in spite of lots of
pressure to do so).
Ryan’s answer to this was “they are spinning the centrifuges faster” a
nonsensical statement that means nothing. At which point one began to
wonder: is this really the man Republicans want to put one heartbeat away
from the presidency?
When Raddatz quoted Robert Gates, former defense secretary, that war with
Iran could prove catastrophic and could
“
haunt us for generations” Ryan ignored the question, and went on to
denounce alleged cuts in military spending, which are in
reality only cuts in projected increases. Ryan also said we’ve got
the smallest navy we’ve had since World War I yet it’s ridiculous to
measure our naval readiness in the number of ships, ignoring their
capabilities. How much sense does it make to compare World War I frigates
with
nuclear
powered submarines and
aircraft
carriers?
When the conversation turned to Afghanistan, Ryan agreed with the 2014
withdrawal date but saying so advertises “weakness” to our enemies, and
so he wouldn’t make it public. The Obama administration, by withdrawing
troops during the fighting season, was making a “political” decision, and
our remaining troops, he claimed, are “less safe.” Biden had a
great answer for this:
“What we’ve found out and we you you saw it in Iraq, Martha.
Unless you set a timeline, Baghdad in the case of Iraq and and Kabul in
the case of Afghanistan will not step up. They’re happy to let us
continue to do the job international security forces to do the job. The
only way they step up is say, fellas, we’re leaving; we’ve trained you;
step up. Step up.”
Ryan had no answer to this because it is such a politically potent
argument: the American people
want out of Afghanistan. They are sick and tired of fighting other
peoples’ wars. Step up step up and take responsibility for your own
life: that sounds like a Republican-style message, and yet the Vice
President was the one making it.
Raddatz brought up Syria, and again Ryan
tried desperately to carve out some real differences between his
position and the administration’s to little avail. Biden assured him
the Obama administration is sending “humanitarian and other aid” to
the rebels, and asked again if Ryan would prefer going to war with US
troops on the ground. Ryan denied that, but struggled to define how he
and Romney would do things differently.
Ryan stumbled over the answer to that question because a Romney
administration wouldn’t deviate from Obama’s script all that much:
rhetorically, we might strike a few more poses, but in reality the
differences would be nearly undetectable. That’s because the War Party
dominates both parties to such an extent that there is no real debate on
foreign policy this election season and there hasn’t been since the
Vietnam war era. Obama is merely continuing, with a few unimportant
variations, the same policy of
global hegemonism and regime change in the Middle East that his
predecessor began a decade ago.
The only difference is rhetorical and, in politics, that makes all the
difference. Biden spoke for a warmongering administration in the language
of peace, while Ryan spoke for a campaign that wants to “prevent war” in
the language of irreconcilable conflict.
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