When you put a northeastern liberal on the top of the ticket ... what did you expect would happen? --- he would propose building a space station for the gods on Lolob?
According to Smith, the scrolls described a vision of Abraham, in which Abraham: "saw the stars, that they were very great, and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God;....and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest." In an explanation of an Egyptian hypocephalus that was part of the Joseph Smith Papyri, Joseph Smith interpreted one set of hieroglyphics as representing: "Kolob, signifying the first creation, nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. First in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. The measurement according to celestial time, which celestial time signifies one day to a cubit. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth, which is called by the Egyptians Jah-oh-eh." The Book of Abraham describes a hierarchy of heavenly bodies, including the earth, its moon, and the sun, each with different movements and measurements of time, where at the pinnacle, the slowest- rotating body is Kolob, where one Kolob-day corresponds to 1000 earth- years,[8] with similarities to 2 Peter 3:8 which says "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years". Additional, similar information about Kolob is found in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, constituting manuscripts in the handwriting of Smith and his scribes. On Nov 11, 8:16 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought Republicans embraced PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY? > When you put a northeastern liberal on the top of the ticket ... what did you > expect would happen? > How is it *MY* fault? > Regard$, > --MJ > "It's my fault, and the fault of those like me, that Romney lost since I > refused to vote for what they say is the lesser of two evils. Never because > Romney is a police statist, warmonger, fascist drug warrior. Perhaps people > should blame those evangelicals who refused to vote for Romney because he is > a Mormon. Most of them probably had no problem with Romney's views on war and > the police state." -- Laurence Vance.At 09:12 PM 11/11/2012, you wrote:mj > shut up we got obama some what thanks to you stfu > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:58 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:Why Mitt > Romney Lost -- and the GOP Will Continue to LoseThe party's message is > confused, contradictory, and unconvincing.Nick GillespieNovember 9, 2012How > did Mitt Romney and the Republican Party blow it all so badly?The short > answer is that the GOP insisted on pushing backward-looking social issues in > a country that is increasingly libertarian.The White House, a Senate > majority, and strengthened control in the House of Representatives was not > simply within reach for the Party of Lincoln this election cycle. It was > gift-wrapped and adorned with pretty little bows. President Barack Obama > presided over the worst economy in memorya situationgreatly exacerbated by > the very policieshe implemented to restart the economy; U.S. foreign policy > is a shambles and our standing even (especially?) in the countrieswe > “liberated” recentlyfrom autocracy is plummeting; and a record number of > voters had disaffiliated from the Democratic Party since 2008. The > presidentwas pulling bad numbersright up to the eve of the election.And yet > Obama won re-election easily and the Democrats gained a net two seats in the > Senate (including wins in Missouri and Indiana that should have been easy > Republican victories). That’s because the GOP, despite its endlessly repeated > mantra of limited government, is wildly out of touch withthe majority of > Americanswho consistently say they want the government to do less, spend > less, and not enforce a single set of values.There’s no question that on > broadly defined social issues such as immigration, marriage equality, and > drug policy, Barack Obama has been terrible. He’sdeported record numbers of > immigrantsand his late-campaign exemption of some younger undocumented > immigrants was one of the most cycnical policy changes imaginable. Yet he > managed to increasehis take of the Latino voteprecisely because Mitt Romney > and the Republicans are even worse (at least rhetorically) on the issue. > Romney called for “self-deportation” during the Republican primary season and > attacked Gov. Rick Perrywho pulls upward of40 percent of Latino voters in > Texasfor his mildly pro-immigrant stance (in his 2004 re-election bid, George > W. Bush received around 40 percent on the Latino vote). If Republican > representatives such as Steve King (R-Iowa) continue to talk about immigrants > asakin to dogs and livestock, there’s no way that the party can expect > Hispanics to vote for them. Or non-Hispanics who are rightly disturbed by > such attitudes.Similar dynamics hold true on issues such as drug policy and > marriage equality, each of which passed handily in various state ballot > initiatives. Obama has raided medical marijuana dispensaries that are legal > under state law without a second thought. Now that Washington and Colorado > have legalized not just medical marijuana but all pot, the GOP should stay > true to its valorization of federalism and the states as “laboratories of > democracy” and call for an end to the federal drug war. The same goes for gay > marriage, which is supported by a majority of Americans and passed in > Maryland, Maine, and Washington stateeven as an anti-marriage equality > amendment to Minnesota’s state constitution went down to defeat. It’s fully > consistent for small-government Republicanswho rarely missan opportunity to > talk about returning “power” to the statesto champion these developments. As > Romney has put it, "Every time you have an occasion to take something from > the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right > direction."The GOP has a major problem with women voters, who perceive it as > either hostile or indifferent to questions about reproductive freedom and > choice. Obama won women's votes by12 percentage pointsthis time around, about > the same as he did in 2008 (which suggests this year's result is not a stray > indicator). There’s no question that the media and Democrats made a huge deal > out of Todd Akin’s bizarre biological disquisitions and Richard Mourdock’s > principled commitment to an extreme pro-life position. But the reason such > statements resonated with voters is because they confirm the idea of the GOP > as an anti-sex, anti-abortion party that routinely says the government is > awful at everything it does but should have the final say over whether women > can get abortions. That’s a contradictory message that is also wildly at odds > with the77 percent of Americanswho believe that abortion should be legal > under at least some circumstances.If Republicans failed to engage the > libertarian sentiments of voters when it comes to social issues, it also > failed to put forth a serious alternative to Obama’s dismal record of > increasing government spending (with promises of yet more to come). Indeed, > Romney and his fellow Republicans simply did not lay out budget plans that > called for specific major cuts to programs even as they called for tax cuts. > Instead, we heard only that President Romney would eventually reduce spending > to 20 percent of GDPa level that is still more than two full percentage > pointsabove the post-war average for revenue as a percentage of GDP. At the > same time and despite a 70 percent-plus increased in military spending over > the past decade, Romney committed to the "goal of setting core defense > spending...at a floor of 4 percent of GDP" (emphasis in original). Add to > that Romney’s inability to say flatly that he would actually repeal Obama’s > health-care reform, something everyone understands will cost far more and > deliver far less than promised. Instead, Romney averred that he would keepthe > parts he liked. To a population rightly worried about the looming fiscal > cliff, out-of-control spenidng, and massive national debt, the GOP economic > plan was weak tea, an echo of the Democratic plan of spending more and more > and figuring out how to pay for it sometime in the future.So far, the > right-wing response to the GOP's drubbing has been strange, to say the least. > Right-wing activist Richard Viguerie, dubbed "conservative of the century" by > the Washington Times,has said, "Republicans ran away from such issues as > same-sex marriage, religious freedom and Obama’s war on the Catholic Church." > At City Journal, the influential publication of the conservative Manhattan > Institute,Andrew Klavan proposesthat right-wingers play the "long game" by > taking over the media and culture industries and stressing Judeo-Christian > values because "an irreligious people cannot be free."Charles Krauthammer > counselsto keep on keepin' on: "There’s no need for radical change," he says. > Don't sweat the increase in minorities, he says, married women still vote > Republicans. He's right on that, but wrong to ignore shifts in public > attitudes that are broad-based and, even more important, party planks that > are flatly inconsistent with stated GOP ideology and recent experience with > Republican legislators. George W. Bush and a Republican... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
