(*e.g.;* the article I posted basically supports the key points of McMaken's article.....)
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > Hey MJ, > > In defense of your article, and in attacking my latest rant, I thought > this was a pretty fair and balanced perspective on this new "secession" > discussion: > > > http://www.teapartyperspective.com/2012/11/13/counterpoint-to-secession-is-not-the-answer/ > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My......Oh My! Where or where do you find these types of articles? >> >> Secession was in fact settled in 1865. The federal government, which >> has tanks, drones, all kinds of really effective weaponry, says that >> secession will not take place in the United States, Constitution be >> damned! Again, this was determined in April and May, 1865. >> >> Secession in 1860/1861 had very little to do with, * >> "treasonous/unAmerican/craaaazy/slavers".* >> In fact, South Carolina put "nullification" of a Federal Congressional >> Act to the test in 1832, during a South Carolina State Convention; the >> State Legislature declared all protective tariffs, particularly those of >> 1828 and 1832, to be null and void within the state. Then Vice President >> John Calhoun resigned as the Vice President, and the South Carolina >> Legislature, who supported nullification sent him to the Senate to >> present its case. >> >> The “rebellion” was a war for Southern independence. The South had no >> design to “conquer” the North, let alone to abolish elections. If anything, >> it hoped that the 1864 election would replace Lincoln with a new president >> who would make peace. >> >> Like most war leaders, President Lincoln grossly distorted and >> exaggerated the motives of the South. He constantly insisted that the South >> wanted to “destroy” the Union, when it merely wanted to withdraw from it. >> He called honorable men like Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee “traitors,” >> though they never betrayed anyone in their lives. He accused the South of >> “aggression,” when it was the South that was being invaded, and truly >> destroyed, by the Union armies. Having assured the country that he had >> neither the power nor the inclination to disturb slavery, Lincoln made the >> destruction of slavery his lofty war aim in the middle of the war! >> >> The most glaring proof lies in the reaction to the Emancipation >> Proclamation, which was simply an ultimatum to the Confederacy. All states >> not in rebellion could keep their slaves, as could any state that ceased >> participation in the war within 100 days. Years ago, I found a list >> generated from some federal government entity, (Maybe the U.S. Census?) on >> the internet, that showed the actual slave holders in each state, and every >> state in the Union between 1861 and 1863 had slaves, to include all of the >> Northern States!! >> >> Consider this. The South is fighting a bloody and costly war to preserve >> slavery. Suddenly President Lincoln publicly announces that the South may >> keep their slaves if they just stop fighting. What would the rebels do? >> They would shoulder their rifles, march home, keep their slaves and declare >> victory. Historically, if it is as you believe, the Emancipation >> Proclamation would be considered a declaration of surrender by the Union. >> So why didn’t the southerners stop the war and keep their slaves? Only one >> possible answer……Slavery wasn’t the sole issue!!! >> >> In the decade preceding the Civil War, slaves were freed in unprecedented >> numbers. Scottish, Irish and German immigrants moving south, willing to >> work the plantations for pennies a week, rendered slaveholding impractical. >> By the time the North invaded, fewer than 25 percent of Southern farmers >> still owned slaves. I don’t know how your family came to the United >> States, but parts of my family, the patriarchal side, were indentured!!! >> My family for over 100 years, were sharecroppers. >> >> >> >> > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
