Thanks for sharing this Travis! I had heard that Ford was not going to do
the retro Mustang anymore, and this is an interesting design......I haven't
decided if I really really like it, or really really hate it.




On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Posted: 15 Apr 2013 07:46 AM PDT
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> *[image: 2015 Mustang... Probe Revisited?]
> By Eric Peters, Automotive Columnist*
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> Mustang people will recall the hollow point bullet that was dodged back in
> the early ’90s when Ford* almost* ruined the iconic RWD American pony
> car. By turning it into an import-style *FWD* car. That car, by the grace
> of Elvis, ended up being sold as *another* car — the Probe — and in 1994,
> Ford brought out a new Mustang that harkened back (stylistically) to the
> original ’64 Mustang — and which was based on the same solid axle/RWD
> layout. But Ford management had given serious thought to slotting in the
> the Probe as the “new” Mustang.
>
> Sanity prevailed.
>
> But apparently, management is thinking along those lines again.
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> There is a rumor floating around that the 2015 Mustang will be based on a
> “global platform.” What that means (if true) is that the ’15 Mustang would
> be made for the *global* market — not the *US* market. And that could
> mean, probably *will* mean, FWD — and four cylinders. With maybe a
> transversely mounted, turbocharged (“EcoBoost”) V-6 as the optional
> powerplant. Maybe teamed up with *AWD*.
>
> But not *RWD*.
>
> Here’s how come:
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> RWD platforms and V-8 engines are only mass-market viable in the US
> market. In *Europe*, chiefly because gas costs about $10 a gallon,
> RWD/V-8 cars are *exotic* cars — and for the rich only. The only
> conceivable way a Mustang could make it in Europe as other than a
> high-dollar/low-production exotic would be if it got smaller, lighter — and
> much more fuel-efficient. The easiest, most cost-effective way to do that
> would be to eliminate the separate rear axle assembly — and change the
> layout to FWD.
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> Then they could also get rid of the V-8 and replace it with a six — and
> make a small four the standard engine. Problem solved.
>
> Consider:
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> The current (2013) V-6 Mustang rates 19 city, 31 highway — *23* MPG,
> average. The V-8 GT comes in at 18 city, 25 highway — 20 average. That
> won’t cut it for the *US* market — which three calendar years from now
> and just two model years from now (2016) will require all new cars to *
> average* 35.5 MPG or be saddled with onerous “gas guzzler” fines that
> will be passed on to the buyer. Already, even higher-end brands are
> divesting themselves of six cylinder engines, slotting in smaller — more
> fuel sippy — fours in their place. V-8s are rapidly going the way of the
> Dodo. As 2016 gets closer, this shift will become more and more obvious as
> more and more cars get shorn of engines over 3 liters and with more than
> four pistons under their hoods.
>
> The current Mustang’s mileage will have to be improved by something on the
> order of 50 percent just to make the 2016 CAFE cut. And even that won’t cut
> it in *Europe* — where 35.5 MPG is *mediocre*.
>
> For some perspective on what sells in Europe, consider a car like the
> Euro-spec VW Jetta, which is sold with a 1.6 liter diesel not available in
> the US. It manages 50-plus MPG (60 on the highway) as good or better than
> the best *hybrids* deliver on this side of the pond. To match that
> at-the-pump performance, the next Mustang’s mileage would have to 
> *double*relative to the current car’s mileage.
>
> But it’s not just European realities that cast a pall over the future of a
> RWD (and V-8 powered) Mustang for 2015. Forget the gas guzzler taxes.
> People over *here* are freaked out about the cost of* gas*.
>
> The current Mustang has a fairly small (for a car of this type) 16 gallon
> fuel tank. At current prices — about $3.80 nationally — it takes about $60
> to fuel one up. What happens when — not if — gas prices climb to $5 a
> gallon? Whether because of inflation or oil shortages or “save the Earth”
> taxes on gas — the reasons why don’t matter. What does matter is that fewer
> and fewer people can afford to spend $300 a month on gas (and that’s at
> current prices) on top of a $400 a month car payment. On top of $100/month
> for mandatory insurance… .
>
> You can rest assured Ford is thinking hard about all this.
>
> Another thing Ford is probably thinking about is changing demographics.
> The crowd that buys Mustangs — and other large, RWD muscle coupes — is
> mostly an *older* crowd. Gen X, Boomers.
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> The crowd Ford knows is the future (Millennials ) is a crowd that grew up
> with — and so which is more comfortable with — smaller, lighter, FWD cars.
> As kids, they drove Corollas and Civics — not two-ton RWD V-8 muscle cars.
> If Ford (and GM and Dodge) continue with the RWD/V-8 layout, they may find
> themselves stuck with an aging — and not *growing* — buyer demographic.
>
> These factors — the need to expand the next Mustang’s market beyond the
> borders of the US, the pressure to meet 35.5 MPG *average* CAFE and
> changing buyer demographics — could very well lead to the end of the
> Mustang as we have known it. And to a new kind of Mustang as we might have
> known it back in ’94.
>
> At minimum, a four-cylinder turbo’d (“Ecoboosted,” in Ford-speak) base
> model 2015 Mustang is very likely. That by itself might not be a bad thing.
> Mustang people will recall that during the ’80s and into the early ’90s,
> the base Mustang came with a four cylinder engine. If Ford sold say eight
> four cylinder, (and 36 MPG) Mustangs for every two 28 MPG V-8 GTs, the CAFE
> numbers would balance out.
>
> But, a problem: The ’80s-early ’90s era Mustang was a much lighter car
> that could get away with being both four cylinder-powered *and* RWD. A
> 1990 LX with the four weighed 2,827 lbs. The current (2013) base V-6
> Mustang weighs *3,501 lbs.* and is probably much too heavy to be powered
> by a four cylinder engine.
>
> To be four-cylinder-viable, the 2015 Mustang will need to be much lighter
> — on the order of 300-500 pounds lighter. Obvious solution? *Get rid of
> the rear axle assembly* — and make the car FWD. Then the four could
> possibly work. And a turbo-Ecoboosted V-6 could maintain the necessary
> performance level for the GT model while also achieving the necessary CAFE
> numbers.
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> But will this car — a euro-import style FWD/AWD car with no V-8 option —
> be a *Mustang*? Would such a car sell to Millenials?
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> Or just turn off Gen Xers and Boomers?
>
> In about 24 months from now, we’ll find out… .
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> 2015 Mustang… Probe 
> Revisited?<http://blog.motorists.org/2015-mustang-probe-revisited/>
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> Further Reading:
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>    - Goodbye, V-8s – This Time, Maybe For 
> Good<http://blog.motorists.org/goodbye-v8-for-good/>
>    - CAFE Spells RIP For 
> Trucks?<http://blog.motorists.org/cafe-spells-rip-for-trucks/>
>    - Why The 2009 Camaro Is 
> Doomed<http://blog.motorists.org/why-the-2009-camaro-is-doomed/>
>    - If We Really Wanted To Save 
> Gas…<http://blog.motorists.org/if-we-really-wanted-to-save-gas/>
>    - 50 MPG Then – and Now<http://blog.motorists.org/50-mpg-then-and-now/>
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