Plain Ol',  any man or woman in any State has the same right as you and I,
to go and marry any man or woman that they choose.  Again, what many want
is "additional rights".

I'm tired of debating this with you.  You obviously are one who wants
additional rights and are not one that believes in equal protection of the
laws as they exist today.




On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, plainolamerican
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Are you
> suggesting that the current Western societies and culture
> ---
> way less than 5k years old.
>
> I am not opposed to equal rights.  I am one who advocates and fights
> daily
> for individuals' equal rights.  What I am opposed to is "additional
> rights"
> ---
> they just want equal rights.
>
>   Any Gay man or Gay woman has the same right as you and I do
> today,
> ---
> not true. They can't marry and get a tax deduction.
>
>  You and others wish to change the
> definition of marriage,  which I am opposed to.
> ---
> it's already been changed.
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage
>
> Where we do agree, is that government should not be involved in any
> "Marriage".
> ---
> true
>
>   I can understand the need for the government's involvement in
> civil unions,  because of the propensity for these civil union
> contractual
> agreements to be dissolved and then, the need for court mediation or
> involvement.    Leave ecclesiastical functions to the Churches.
> ---
> the state issues marriage certificates.
>
> On Apr 18, 4:06 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > With eloquence and outright brilliance, Plain Ol' wrote:
> >
> >  ---
> > *"so you're going to use 5k years of myths and failed societies to
> > support your position?"*
> >
> > **
> > *
> > ==========
> > *
> >
> > **
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> > Uhm,  Plain Ol'?   What myths?  What failed societies? * *Are you
> > suggesting that the current Western societies and culture that has been
> > successful and that you currently adhere to is a failure?
> >
> > I am not opposed to equal rights.  I am one who advocates and fights
> daily
> > for individuals' equal rights.  What I am opposed to is "additional
> > rights"  Any Gay man or Gay woman has the same right as you and I do
> > today,  to go and marry anyone that they choose to marry.  As long as it
> > fits the definition of marriage.  You and others wish to change the
> > definition of marriage,  which I am opposed to.
> >
> > Where we do agree, is that government should not be involved in any
> > "Marriage".  I can understand the need for the government's involvement
> in
> > civil unions,  because of the propensity for these civil union
> contractual
> > agreements to be dissolved and then, the need for court mediation or
> > involvement.    Leave ecclesiastical functions to the Churches.
>
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