I still believe in God and Jesus, I just don't believe in the Catholic Church's way of doing business ... I am not a practicing Catholic, I got it right, no need to practice anymore!!!
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > Good Morning Brine! > > That's cause your Mama was a good Catholic, and wanted to instill the fear > of God in ya! (How'd that work out by the way?) > > <Grin>! > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > >> When I was raised Catholic, we were told we were obligated to go to >> church and to miss was a sin!!! >> >> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think the ain difference here is that Christians 'volunteer ' to >>> attend services and muzzies are ''forced' to attend. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Keith In Tampa >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> And yet, we still have folks like Plain Ol who insist that "ALL Myth >>>> Believers" are on the decline. Plain Ol' and folks like him fail to see >>>> the threat posed here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Bear Bear <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> From The Mail >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One country, two religions and three very telling pictures: The empty >>>>> pews at churches just yards from an overcrowded mosque >>>>> >>>>> - Two photos show Sunday morning services in churches in East >>>>> London >>>>> - The third shows worshippers gathered for Friday midday prayers >>>>> outside a nearby mosque >>>>> - The difference in numbers could hardly be more dramatic >>>>> >>>>> By Guy >>>>> Walters<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Guy+Walters> >>>>> >>>>> *PUBLISHED:* 22:32 GMT, 29 May 2013 | *UPDATED:* 00:05 GMT, 30 May >>>>> 2013 >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> - >>>>> - >>>>> - >>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332998/One-country-religions-telling-pictures-The-pews-churches-just-yards-overcrowded-mosque.html#socialLinks> >>>>> >>>>> * 4.9k * shares >>>>> >>>>> 1307 >>>>> >>>>> View >>>>> comments >>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332998/One-country-religions-telling-pictures-The-pews-churches-just-yards-overcrowded-mosque.html#comments> >>>>> >>>>> Set aside the fact that our Queen is the Defender of the Christian >>>>> Faith. Ignore the 26 Church of England bishops who sit in the House of >>>>> Lords. >>>>> >>>>> Pay no attention to the 2011 Census that told us 33.2 million people >>>>> in England and Wales describe themselves as Christians. >>>>> >>>>> For if you want a more telling insight into religion in the United >>>>> Kingdom today, just look at these photographs. The story they tell is more >>>>> revealing than any survey. >>>>> [image: St Mary's, Cable Street] >>>>> [image: HUNDREDS OF WORSHIPPERS GATHER FOR FRIDAY PRAYERS AT THE >>>>> BRUNE STREET MOSQUE] >>>>> >>>>> The photo on the left shows St Mary's Church in Cable Street while the >>>>> photo on the right shows worshippers gathered for Friday midday prayers >>>>> outside a nearby mosque in Spitalfields, both in East London >>>>> >>>>> What they show are three acts of worship performed in the East End of >>>>> London within a few hundred yards of each other at the end of last month. >>>>> >>>>> Two of the photos show Sunday morning services in the churches of St >>>>> George-in-the-East on Cannon Street Road, and St Mary’s on Cable Street. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> More... >>>>> >>>>> - 'I haven't been in touch since before 2007': Squirming hate >>>>> preacher Choudary backtracks on links to soldier 'killer' after >>>>> originally >>>>> claiming he saw him two years >>>>> ago<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332551/Woolwich-murder-MI5-investigate-links-hate-preacher-Anjem-Choudary-Lee-Rigbys-alleged-killers.html> >>>>> - Four men charged after 1,000 English Defence League supporters >>>>> marched on Downing Street over Drummer Rigby's >>>>> murder<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332604/Drummer-Lee-Rigby-murder-4-men-charged-English-Defence-League-supporters-march-Downing-Street.html> >>>>> >>>>> The third shows worshippers gathered for Friday midday prayers >>>>> outside the nearby mosque on the Brune Street Estate in Spitalfields. >>>>> >>>>> The difference in numbers could hardly be more dramatic. At St >>>>> George’s, some 12 people have congregated to celebrate Holy Communion. >>>>> [image: Empty pews: 18th-century parishioners crowded into St >>>>> George-in-the-East hear John Wesley. Only 12 people attended the service] >>>>> >>>>> Empty pews: 18th-century parishioners crowded into St >>>>> George-in-the-East hear John Wesley. Only 12 people attended the service >>>>> >>>>> When the church was built in the early 18th century, it was designed >>>>> to seat 1,230. >>>>> >>>>> Numbers are similar at St Mary’s, opened in October 1849. Then, it >>>>> could boast a congregation of 1,000. Today, as shown in the picture, the >>>>> worshippers total just 20. >>>>> >>>>> While the two churches are nearly empty, the Brune Street Estate >>>>> mosque has a different problem — overcrowding. >>>>> >>>>> The mosque itself is little more than a small room rented in a >>>>> community centre, and it can hold only 100. >>>>> >>>>> However, on Fridays, those numbers swell to three to four times the >>>>> room’s capacity, so the worshippers spill out onto the street, where they >>>>> take up around the same amount of space as the size of the near-empty St >>>>> Mary’s down the road. >>>>> [image: Dwindling flock: St Mary's Cable Street in East London was >>>>> built to hold 1,000 people. Today, the congregation numbers around 20] >>>>> >>>>> Dwindling flock: St Mary's Cable Street in East London was built to >>>>> hold 1,000 people. Today, the congregation numbers around 20 >>>>> >>>>> What these pictures suggest is that, on current trends, Christianity >>>>> in this country is becoming a religion of the past, and Islam is one of >>>>> the >>>>> future. >>>>> >>>>> In the past ten years, there has been a decrease in people in England >>>>> and Wales identifying as Christian, from 71.7 per cent to 59.3 per cent of >>>>> the population. >>>>> >>>>> In the same period the number of Muslims in England and Wales has >>>>> risen from 3 per cent of the population to 4.8 per cent — 2.7 million >>>>> people. >>>>> >>>>> And Islam has age on its side. Whereas a half of British Muslims are >>>>> under 25, almost a quarter of Christians are approaching their eighth >>>>> decade. >>>>> >>>>> It is estimated that in just 20 years, there will be more active >>>>> Muslims in this country than churchgoers — an idea which even half a >>>>> century ago would have been utterly unthinkable. >>>>> >>>>> Many will conclude with a heavy heart that Christianity faces a >>>>> permanent decline in Britain, its increasingly empty churches a monument >>>>> to >>>>> those centuries when the teachings of Christ governed the thoughts and >>>>> deeds of the masses. >>>>> [image: A study in devotion: The tiny mosque on the Brune Street >>>>> Estate, Spitalfields, holds only 100 people, so the local Bangladeshi >>>>> community throng the street for Friday midday prayers] >>>>> >>>>> A study in devotion: The tiny mosque on the Brune Street Estate, >>>>> Spitalfields, holds only 100 people, so the local Bangladeshi community >>>>> throng the street for Friday midday prayers >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday October 1, 1738, St George’s was packed twice during the day >>>>> to hear the great evangelist John Wesley, who then preached at the church >>>>> for the following week explaining, as he put it, ‘the way of salvation to >>>>> many who misunderstood what had been preached concerning it’. >>>>> >>>>> Today, there are no John Wesleys to fill up the pews. The church does >>>>> its best, offering, for example, a monthly ‘Hot Potato Sunday’, during >>>>> which the few congregants can discuss the readings of the day over a >>>>> baked >>>>> potato. >>>>> >>>>> Canon Michael Ainsworth of St George’s puts on a brave face when he >>>>> says: ‘What we are saying now is it is not just a matter of numbers. It >>>>> is >>>>> about keeping faith with the city and hanging in there — being part of the >>>>> community.’ >>>>> >>>>> At St Mary’s, meanwhile, Rev Peter McGeary cannot explain why the >>>>> numbers are so low: ‘It’s impossible to say, there are so many variables.’ >>>>> >>>>> When he is asked if he tries to boost his congregations, he simply >>>>> replies: ‘We are not a company, we are a church.’ >>>>> >>>>> In contrast, there seems a remarkable energy attached to the mosque on >>>>> Brune Street, which has been described as the ‘Mecca of the City’. >>>>> >>>>> Here, come rain or shine, members of the Bangladeshi community >>>>> perform the Friday prayer of Jumma under the open sky. It is a communal >>>>> act >>>>> which will surely only grow in popularity. >>>>> >>>>> Sadly, that’s not something that can be said of the two nearby >>>>> churches, and unless they can reinvigorate their congregations they may >>>>> finally end up being deconsecrated. >>>>> >>>>> When that happens, such large buildings will be attractive spaces for >>>>> those who can fill them. >>>>> >>>>> One day, in a few decades, St George’s may well again be packed with >>>>> worshippers — but they will not be Christians. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Bear >>>>> http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/GNUZ/ >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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