*Intelligence Officials Defend Surveillance Programs as Congress Considers
Reforms*

Posted By *Rodrigo Sermeño* On October 31, 2013 ****

WASHINGTON – During a grilling by the House Intelligence Committee on
Tuesday,  top spy chiefs defended their intelligence-gathering activities
in the wake of allegations that the United States collected telephone and
email records from European citizens.****

National Security Agency director Gen. Keith Alexander said the NSA would
prefer to “take the beatings” from the public and in the media “than to
give up a program that would result in this nation being attacked.”****

He vigorously defended the agency’s intelligence programs, saying they have
helped save lives “not only here, but in Europe, and around the world.”****

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asserted there is no other
country in the world that has the magnitude of oversight over its
intelligence apparatus as the U.S. does.****

“We operate within a robust framework of strict rules and rigorous
oversight involving all three branches of the government,” he said.****

Clapper said the manner in which the work of the intelligence agencies has
been characterized in recent months has often been “incomplete, inaccurate,
or misleading.”****

“I believe that most Americans realize the intelligence community exists to
collect the vital intelligence that helps protect our nation from foreign
threats. We focus on uncovering the secret plans and intentions of our
foreign adversaries, as we’ve been charged to do,” he said. “But what we do
not do is spy unlawfully on Americans, or for that matter, spy
indiscriminately on the citizens of any country. We only spy for valid
foreign intelligence purposes as authorized by law, with multiple layers of
oversight to ensure we don’t abuse our authorities.”****

Clapper admitted there have been mistakes, but these are caused by “human
error or technical problems.”****

“Whenever we’ve found mistakes, we’ve reported, addressed and corrected
them,” he added.****

The hearing follows a report by the German magazine *Der Spiegel* that the
NSA monitored German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s personal cell phone. Citing
documents provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, some European
newspapers have also reported the U.S. carried out surveillance on French
and Spanish citizens.****

Last week, the former director of France’s domestic intelligence agency,
Bernard Squarcini, stated in an interview to French newspaper *Le
Figaro*that “there is no reason to be surprised” as allies have been
spying on
each other for a long time.****

“The French intelligence services know full well that all countries,
whether or not they are allies in the fight against terrorism, spy on each
other all the time,” Squarcini said.****

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) made reference
to the interview, asking Clapper whether those remarks were consistent with
what he knew as the director of intelligence operations.****

“Absolutely,” Clapper replied. “It’s invaluable to us to know where
countries are coming from, what their policies are, how that would impact
us across a whole range of issues, so – and it isn’t just leaders
themselves. It’s what goes on around them and the policies that they convey
to their governments.”****

Both he and Alexander said that allies conducting espionage against the
U.S. and its leaders was just “a basic tenet” of intelligence operations.***
*

Alexander said overseas reports the U.S. had collected tens of millions of
phone calls in France, Spain, and other European nations were “completely
false.”****

That data, he said, is at least partly collected by the foreign
intelligence services and provided to the NSA.****

“This is not information that we collected on European citizens. It
represents information that we and our NATO allies have collected in
defense of our countries and in support of military operations,” he said.***
*

The White House has tried to control some of the damage from reports of NSA
spying on allies. President Obama has promised a thorough review of
overseas spying operations and is considering whether to suspend monitoring
the leaders of U.S. allies, the New York Times reported.****

Following the Snowden leaks, media reports have primarily focused on two
authorities under the 2001 Patriot Act and the 1978 Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act (FISA). First, the business records provision, known as
Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows the government to legally
collect so-called metadata — phone numbers and length of calls – but not
content, conversations, or names, according to committee Ranking Member
Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.).****

The second authority is known as Section 702 of FISA, also known as PRISM,
which allows the government to collect the content of email and phone calls
of foreigners who are located outside of the U.S.****

Both of these authorities are legal and no court has ever struck them down,
Ruppersberger noted.****

The congressional hearing was meant to discuss potential changes to FISA,
which grants the NSA its authority for data collection.****

Ruppersberger said Congress is working with the administration and the
private sector to explore changes to FISA. He said they are considering a
proposal to require a declassification review of any FISA court decision or
opinion “to improve transparency without threatening sources and methods.”**
**

The FISA Court grants or refuses surveillance rights requests from U.S.
government agencies.****

“The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act must be reformed. We have worked
with the administration, the Senate, telecommunications companies and other
stakeholders to evaluate and vet a range of options. We must approve
transparency, privacy protections, and thereby restore the public’s
confidence. You cannot truly have privacy without security or security
without privacy,” he said.****

They are also evaluating congressional reporting, so that all members of
Congress, not just those on committees with jurisdictions, can view the
classified reports about the programs.****

Alexander and Clapper both said they were open to greater transparency
around their intelligence-gathering activities.****

On Tuesday, dozens of lawmakers from both parties introduced legislation to
curb the NSA’s surveillance powers.****

The USA Freedom Act, which has 16 co-sponsors in the Senate and more than
70 in the House, would stop the agency’s massive phone record collection
program.****

The bill was authored by Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), chairman of the Senate
Judiciary Committee, and Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), one of the
leading authors of the Patriot Act.****
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