To Neocons *anyone* who questions their beloved jingoistic nationalism is a 'far left extremist'.
Sadly, Rozeff is spot on.
The US began its demise with the Spanish-American War ... solidified with the wholly unnecessary Great War -- that had Great Britain not escalated and elevated would have AVERTED the scourges that were Hitler AND the Soviet Union.
That we have perpetual blowback, manipulation and the all-too-important and 'necessary' replacement for that hobgoblin known as the Red Menace notwithstanding.
Regard$,
--MJ
"During World War I, millions of Americans more or less lost their minds as the government stirred up a hysterical frenzy of "patriotic" oppression. Among the countless outrages, which included everything from lynchings to an almost total suppression of First Amendment rights under federal and state sedition statutes, was this atrocity: Some "religious people opposed to war were thrown in jail, kept in chains and given a diet of bread and water until they renounced their religious convictions." (Michael Linfield, Freedom Under Fire: U.S. Civil Liberties in Times of War (1990), p. 34.
"The next time you encounter someone who insists that the U.S. government has EVER gone to war to protect American liberties, I suggest that you politely inform them they are full of shit and badly in need of remedial historical education." -- Robert Higgs
At 10:34 PM 11/11/2013, you wrote:
I think Mr. Rozeff forgets a few facts, but in general, the theory goes something like this: "Because our Nation was attacked by terroristic multi-national individuals, to include those who call and/or brand themselves "Taliban"; those Veterans who have been engaged in battle in the Middle East against those same forces who attacked us on numerous occasions since the 1980s, are the ones who have recently threatened the safety and security of our Nation. This, coupled with the fact that a large number of Muslims want to see the end of Western Society's (to include all of North America's and all of Europa's) very way of life, it is safe to acknowledge that yes, we have our United States Armed Forces to be thankful to, for providing a deterrent and a defense to these hostile enemies.--
The rest of Mr. Rezoff's article is just ridiculous. Of course the whole world was engaged in war during the two world wars. Mr. Rezoff acts as if it is some type of a wront to support and be thankful for our armed forces and for those who have served their Nation. Mr. Rezoff is a far left extremist who should be shunned, yet you post his garbage here.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
- “Without the Veterans, We Wouldn’t Be Here”
- Michael S. Rozeff
- A clerk told me this today. She was a friendly woman of 50, by all appearances a typical middle-class American, perhaps even a grandmother.
- Which veterans I wonder? The ones who fought the Spanish and the Filipinos? They had no known designs on America in 1898.
- The vets who fought the Iraqis twice? The latter didn’t make war against America or even launch sporadic attacks. The vets who have been killing Afghanistan Taliban? Ditto for them. The vets of the Korean War? North Korea didn’t attack America either. The vets of the Grenada War? Grenada is just a tiny island. The World War 1 veterans? That war was among European powers until the U.S. got into it, for no reason that had anything to do with making sure that “we would be here”.
- The vets who fought the Vietnam War? It is a terrible thing to have to say, given the lives lost and mangled, that North Vietnam had no designs on America and that the U.S. presence on the South Vietnamese side had absolutely nothing to do with our being here in America at that time or at any time since, other than to make our lives worse, as in the case of the other wars.
- The vets who fought the Japanese? That’s a stronger prima facie case due to the Pearl Harbor attack, but, as Robert Higgs explains, the U.S. government provoked an attack and got its war with both Japan and Germany.
- We would be here without the vets and without all these wars.
- We will be here without American involvement in current wars and trouble spots.
- The notion that vets saved us from being enslaved or worse at the hands of assorted foreigners is absurd. What has happened as a result of these wars is that Americans are now enslaved by various elites within this country.
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