I'd be interested to know how the term "significant" differs from  
"blockbuster" as it pertains to fighting terrorism.
Would the reported half a dozen terrorists captured and the multiple  
plots prevented as a result of waterboarding KSM (1 time) be  
considered merely significant?  In truth, the CIA has learned quite a  
bit from the waterboarding of KSM, Abd al Rahim al Nashiri and Abu  
Zubaydah.

ABC News (9/14/2007)...
"A senior CIA official said KSM later admitted it was only because of  
the waterboarding that he talked.
Ultimately, KSM took responsibility for the 9/ll attacks and virtually  
all other al Qaeda terror strikes, including the beheading of Wall  
Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.  KSM lasted the longest under  
waterboarding, about a minute and a half, but once he broke, it never  
had to be used again," said a former CIA official familiar with KSM's  
case."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/09/cia-bans-water-.html


Jarrad

On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Lance McCulley wrote:

> Later on in the article--
> "Such intelligence was significant but not blockbuster material.  
> Frustrated, the Bush administration ratcheted up the pressure -- for  
> the first time approving the use of increasingly harsh  
> interrogations, including waterboarding. "
>
> -Lance
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Jarrad Reiner <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
> From the Article...
>
> "Some U.S. officials remain steadfast in their conclusion that Abu  
> Zubaida possessed, and gave up, plenty of useful information about  
> al-Qaeda. "
>
> Among them, John Kiriakou, former CIA agent who Led the Team that  
> captured Zubaida and later interrogated him.
>
> Jarrad
>
>
>
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Lance McCulley wrote:
>
>> When CIA officials subjected their first high-value captive, Abu  
>> Zubaida, to waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods,  
>> they were convinced that they had in their custody an al-Qaeda  
>> leader who knew details of operations yet to be unleashed, and they  
>> were facing increasing pressure from the White House to get those  
>> secrets out of him.
>>
>> The methods succeeded in breaking him, and the stories he told of  
>> al-Qaeda terrorism plots sent CIA officers around the globe chasing  
>> leads.
>>
>> In the end, though, not a single significant plot was foiled as a  
>> result of Abu Zubaida's tortured confessions, according to former  
>> senior government officials who closely followed the  
>> interrogations. Nearly all of the leads attained through the harsh  
>> measures quickly evaporated, while most of the useful information  
>> from Abu Zubaida -- chiefly names of al-Qaeda members and  
>> associates -- was obtained before waterboarding was introduced,  
>> they said.
>> --http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/28/AR2009032802066_pf.html
>>
>> -Lance
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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