El Dimecres, 31 de juliol de 2013, a les 17:49:45, Martin Spacek va escriure: > Hello Jose Alliste and the evince and poppler lists, > > Somehow, I wasn't notified of replies to my rant on bugzilla about > annotation support in evince, back in January: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692655#c16 > > Jose, you replied: > > You are welcome to provide patches/start campaigns, etc, to get > > annotation > > support into Evince. This is a volunteer project and we use any help we > > can > > get (and if we can't use it, you are always free to fork, evince is gpl) > > > > Anyway, this is deviating from the issue. We can continue the > > conversation > > privately if you want/need so.( jose.aliste at gmail.com) > > I wish I could provide patches. I certainly have the motivation: I'm > bothered by the lack of full annotation support on an almost daily basis. > But, I have no experience with glib, only very minimal experience with big > C/C++ projects, and no time to devote to changing that situation. I'm a > Python man, and way past due finishing up my PhD. But I was serious about > putting some money into a Kickstarter (or Indiegogo?) campaign. > > I can think of least a few issues that would have to be resolved before a > fundraising campaign could get off the ground: > > Issue #1: what might a Kickstarter campaign promise exactly? Acrobat Pro, > PDF Xchange, or Foxit -like support for adding, editing, and saving > annotations back to the open PDF, with some of the more basic tools, like > highlighting, text annots (box and free), and drawing available on a > toolbar, in the menu bar and context menu, and perhaps via keyboard > shortcuts? Different cursor icons for different annotation tools? > > Issue #2: who would promise to do the work, and therefore get paid? What > kind of timeline might we expect? Ideally, a currently volunteering senior > dev or devs, with plenty of experience with the code base, would devote > themselves to it full-time for a consecutive period, and get paid only if > certain features land by a certain time. > > Issue #3: what should the total minimum pledged amount be? > > Issue #4: how would we resolve conflicts between the stated goals of a > potential Kickstarter campaign, and the opinions of existing devs that > aren't employed by the campagin? > > Obviously, the main single reward for all levels of monetary contributions > would be full PDF annotation support in evince and poppler-glib. Maybe > another reward level could be special mention in the About box, listed in > decreasing order of contribution, above a certain minimum amount. > > However, my biggest worry is that GNOME has been going down the path of > removing tried and true UI components, like menu bars and toolbars, all > seemingly for the sake of change, with an air that the GNOMEs know best, > users be damned, and that giving the (power-ish) user some flexibility and > customizability are somehow a bad thing. Before you ask for references, > whether the preceding sentence is true or not is irrelevant. The perception > among users is very real. > > So, I worry that a Kickstarter campaign for evince and poppler-glib might be > good money and good intentions chasing the wrong project. But, I'd very > much like to be proven wrong. The point with a Kickstarter campaign is that > users could put their money where their mouths are, and speak in a voice > that's a lot harder to dismiss (assuming they can come to some kind of > consensus on a desired feature set, at least for annotations). > > As I stated in the bug report, I'm willing to personally commit US$200 > towards annotation support in evince, assuming the above issues can be > hammered out. More importantly, I'm absolutely certain that countless other > academics, especially those in the harder sciences which are more likely to > run Linux, would be equally willing to contribute monetary support. There > would be many places to advertise such a campaign, and I think it could be > very successful, since the audience is so large. Then of course, > non-academic Linux users would also find full annotation support useful - > perhaps not as desperately so as academic users, but they'd provide a > vastly bigger pool of potential contributors. > > Thoughts?
Have you tried Okular? It does some/most of the annotation things you mention in its latest versions if paired with a new enough poppler. Cheers, Albert > > -- > Martin Spacek > gmane-at-mspacek-dot-mm-dot-st > http://mspacek.github.io/ > > _______________________________________________ > poppler mailing list > poppler@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/poppler _______________________________________________ poppler mailing list poppler@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/poppler
