On Jul 11, 2023, at 21:05, Kevin Oberman <rkober...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 1:10 PM Mark Millard <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:57, Kevin Oberman <rkober...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 9:42 PM Mark Millard <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 10, 2023, at 21:27, Rainer Hurling <rhur...@gwdg.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > As I understand it, the ports-mgmt/pkg of the system running Poudriere 
> > > must be updated beforehand?
> > > 
> > > At least on my side, this seems to work as expected :)
> > > 
> > 
> > poudriere builds pkg updates first (if needed) and then uses the pkg it
> > built for building the later ports into packages.
> > 
> > But, after the restarts of main-* builds, the FreeBSD build servers are
> > still showing examples were, after an 1hr, some builds are still in
> > build-depends. Also there was an example I saw were after 1.5 hr it was
> > still in run-depends.
> > 
> > It may be that things are improved but not fully fixed relative to
> > some performance issues.
> > 
> > ===
> > Mark Millard
> > marklmi at yahoo.com
> >  A new build started this morning at 1:06 UTC and, with pkg-1.20.2, it's 
> > better, but not much. It's running at 21 packages/hour, a 100% improvement 
> > on the last attempt which appears to have been killed last night. The logs 
> > indicate the installation of dependencies, but I don't see any sign of 
> > caching. It's a re-install every time. (I may not understand how poudriere 
> > does things, but I am pretty sure that caching is done.)
> 
> Just about "caching" relative to "poudriere bulk" builds . . .
> 
> Nope. At the end of a builder run of a port build the context is destroyed.
> At the start of the builder building its next port the context is recreated
> from scratch. The only ports installed are exactly the declared dependencies,
> no more, no less, for the new port to be built.
> 
> Caching installed state would imply access to ports from prior build
> activity that do not apply: It would make the build environment polluted with
> irrelevant history. poudriere's purpose is to have a "clean-room" context for
> each port build. Thus its construction of such a context for each port build.
> 
> Caching vs. not is not the source of the large increase in how long things
> take to build.
> 
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
> OK. I knew it started in a clean jail. I just thought that it might use some 
> caching technique to speed repeated installs of a single port... not that I 
> have any idea of how this might be done.
> 
> I think I'll monitor the speed of installs. I iish build logs included 
> timestamps

FYI: Freshports now shows a pkg 1.20.3 described with:

pkg*: new regression fixes release

Changes:
- speed up pkg add again, and greatly reduce its memory footprint
- more compatibility with libfetch (SSL_* variables)
- fixed FETCH_TIMEOUT adaptation to libcurl

Looks to have been committed about 16 hr ago.

Last I looked the official package builders had not been stopped
and restarted with a newer ports tree yet.

===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com


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