> and Joni Mitchell is the original hip chick...  she gets slammed around
>  mostly because of the various inferior imitators that she spawned,
>  but she is the real deal... and always has been.

   that, and then folks almost never give props to the genius of Laura Nyro as
well.  She faded away into some pretty poor flower-powered earth-motherhood
stuff from the mid-70's on, but from 67 to '71 or so she made great records,
brilliantly weaving in and out of so many different styles within one song it
was dizzying.  And you *never* hear Alanis or Natalie or Jewel or hell-any of
'em mention her as an influence.

dan, digressing..... 

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