That is a little odd.  What are you using to view the data.  I know for
example QuantumGIS leaves out some geometries (particularly when they
are large geometries) unless you change some setting on it.  I noticed
this once when I loaded up a large Candadian dataset and thinking -
THATS CANADA.  Then I changed some setting and all looked fine.
 
With ST_Collect you probably get more geometries in your MULTIPOLYGON
than ST_Union since it won't dissolve the boundaries, but you shouldn't
be getting any geometries left out.
 
Hope that helps,
Regina

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Thanks Regina.

For some reason ST_Collect doesn't give exactly the same result. For
example I'm trying to merge european countries in one shape and with
ST_Collects it omits England and other islands while ST_Union includes
them. 
Anyway, my union finished after 4 hours.
I'm joining two tables on an ST_Intersect, one of which has ~15000
features (polygons) and the other just one (a complex polygon). The
query's been running for two hours... I hope I'll see the end of it
before the end of the day! (I've set the indexes where I could and tuned
PostgreSQL)

Regards. 




On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Obe, Regina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


        Try the trick documented here
         
        
http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-svn/ST_Collect.html
         
        On hindsight - I realized the ST_Multi call here is probably
unnecessary so you can leave that part out.
         
        Hope that helps,
        Regina
         
         

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        I'm getting very long processing time from ST_Union (on a shape
of europe at 1/100000 it's been running since 2 hours and hasn't
finished yet; on my previous one of 1/1000000 it took ~1 hour)
        Any other alternative and quicker ways to accomplish the same
operation?
        I just executed st_buffer(st_collect(the_geom)) but still
waiting. Should it take as long? ST_Collect by itself executes fast but
it's result violates the geometry check constraint. 
        
        
        
        
        On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, danny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
        

                Thanks Robert.
                
                I actually exported from ogr2ogr and it created a shape
that worked fine in ArcView.
                
                Best 

                 
                
                
                
                On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Burgholzer,Robert
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                        Could ArcView perhaps want some columns other
than just the shape?  Perhaps you could put a numeric ID or something
else in there.

                         

                        Just a thought,

                         

                        Robert W. Burgholzer

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                        Office of Water Supply and Planning

                        Virginia Department of Environmental Quality

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                        Many thanks, Regina! Indeed ST_Union generated
the polygon, invisible in PgAdmin!! 
                        
                        It creates a nice layer when I open it in uDig. 
                        
                        However when I export it with pgsql2shp, the
shape is unreadable by ArcView with the errmsg: Number of shapes does
not match the number of table records.
                        
                        Here's how I created the layer:
                        
                        create table europe_contour();
                        SELECT addgeometrycolumn('db, 'europe_contour',
'the_geom', 32767,'MULTIPOLYGON', 2 );
                        insert into europe_contour(the_geom) values(
(select st_union(the_geom) from europe));
                        
                        Then I generate the shapefile: 
                        
                        "c:\Program
Files\PostgreSQL\8.3\bin\pgsql2shp.exe" -u postgres -P password -f
europe_contour db europe_contour
                        
                        Any suggestions perhaps on anything I've wrong?
                        
                        

                        On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Obe, Regina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

                        Erik,

                        How were you using ST_Union and what exactly do
you mean by no result.  no result as it looks blank?  If you are using
something like PgAdmin III - it will look blank because it exceeds the
buffer supported by PgAdmin III.

                         

                        SELECT the_geom is null 

                        FROM (somequery or table) as foo

                        LIMIT 1

                         

                        will tell you if its actually returning no
geometry

                         

                        Hope that helps,

                        Regina

                         

                        
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                        Subject: [postgis-users] Merge all polygons from
a dataset

                        Hello everybody,
                        
                        I've converted a shapefile of Europe to PostGIS.
I would like to merge all the countries together so that I only have one
polygon left, the whole contour of Europe. I have tried ST_Union that
gives me no result. I've tried several other functions to no avail. Does
anybody know how I should proceed?
                        
                        Many thanks,
                        
                        Erik

                        
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