Matthias -

Please re-read Bruce's post. You find the mailing list forum very
useful. Others may find a forum format more useful. There is nothing
wrong with having a difference of opinion on that.

I do in fact use PM to easily trash most of the mailing lists posts, and
yes, it is relatively easy to do. But I'd prefer not to have to do it at
all. You don't mind doing that. Because we have different working styles
does not mean that some people would not find a forum more convenient.

I can certainly make arguments why a forum would be less convenient for
many users. You have made some of them. However, the convenience depends
on how someone uses them. I do agree that getting answers on the mailing
list is faster than using a forum, but at the cost of getting some
extraneous email. As Bruce said, there is a trade-off point. I suspect
even you would not want to be on a mailing list that included every
question submitted to Apple's forums, for example.

Different people will have a different trade-off point. That does not
mean that one or the other is wrong about what works for them.

- Winston


Matthias Schmidt wrote:

>Bruce,
>
>I receive between 300 to 500 mails per day from different mailinglists
>and approx. 0.5 mails from those are coming from the pm list!
>With the help of PowerMail I manage to read everything I'm interested in
>and to trash the rest.
>I can't help, but I have the impression you guys just can't really use
>this precious piece of software.
>Webforums are not an alternative at all. They are so much more time
>intensive, extremely slow, you always have to login etc.....
>
>Matthias
>
>Am/On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:39:16 -0700 schrieb/wrote Bruce Barrett:
>
>>Hi Matthias,
>>
>>I think if you re-read what he actually said you'll find it is
>>not the quality of the (mostly) polite, reasoned, informed,
>>helpful, understanding, compassionate messages that are being 
>>exchanged that Mr. Weinmann is referring to that he was attaching
>>the potential "spam-like" label to. It's the quantity 
>>and possibly the lack of organization of the messages.
>>
>>The quantity and "signal to noise ratio" is still high enough 
>>for me to continue reading for the volume of email on the list.
>>BUT if the volume were 10 times the current level, even at 
>>better quality, I'd unsubscribe. Too much to process, not
>>worth the effort. It's the volume that would be spam-like,
>>not the messages. :-)
>>
>>In a forum you can select the topics of interest to you
>>so you can avoid 100s of messages that are not of interest
>>with next to zero effort.
>>
>>That was his argument for forum over email.
>>
>>Obviously the 3 of us are willing, at this point, to use
>>the mail system, it's just that at least 2 of us would prefer
>>a forum. (Maybe we should switch to the archive to get closer 
>>to what we want.)
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Bruce
>>
>>-- 
>>Bruce Barrett            See my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com 
>>
>>As Matthias Schmidt wrote...
>>
>>>Mr. Weinmann,
>>>
>>>calling this list a source of spam is a serious offense to all list
members.
>>>If you can't read the users manual nor search the archive, with all
>>>respect, go somewhere else.
>>>CTM never lacked support, but they won't answer you questions if you can
>>>find the answer in the users manual. That are not support cases that's a
>>>lack of reading ability.
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Am/On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:10:08 -0400 schrieb/wrote Winston Weinmann:
>>>
>><snip>
>>>>The disadvantage of the mailing list is that everyone on the list has to
>>>>receive every email for every topic. This comes close to being spam-like
>>>>in its effect. The advantage, of course, is that it keeps a larger
>>>>community informed of questions than a forum might.
>>>>
>>>>However, the "spam" problem of the mailing list I am sure discourages
>>>>many people from signing up in the first place.
>><snip>
>>
>>
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