powermail-discuss Digest #2746 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007
Re: Threading
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Gomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
resetting Spell checker to Mac OS X
by "angel Kyodo williams | urbanPEACE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Script to delete orphaned attachments?
by "Bill Courington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Script to delete orphaned attachments?
by "Justin Beek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Script to delete orphaned attachments?
by "Ben Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:27:51 +0100
Hans Gomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm not sure but I think normal the MUA's I know do the
> threading by using the message ID. Normal every thread have
> a starting message id and if you look for example the
> message ID here (Message-Id:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) will be during
> the thread allways the same (local part) only if a reply of
> a reply follows the host part change.
>
> But I'm not the real expert in this thing I only think to
> remember to read something bout the threading and how it
> normal works in MUA's.
The message ID will be different for each mail within a thread, but
there is an In-Reply-To field that contains the message ID of the
message replied to; this is used for threading. For example, copying
from the header of your message:
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the ID of Barbara's message
that you replied to.
However, sometimes threading doesn't work, either because someone
participating in an exchange doesn't use reply or because the reply is
to a message within a digest (which has its own message ID that is not
connected to any thread). Or someone hits "Reply", but edits the subject
as he really wants to start a new thread. In the first case, the thread
breaks up into two subthreads, and in the second case, mail clients
supporting threading will display the message within a thread it doesn't
belong to.
> The List-id field was only a smal problem for me. And for
> me it's not so necessary like the possibility to sort by
> thread.
But thankfully, filtering for List-id isn't a problem at all; you can do
it if you want. If the mail headers do contain a List-id field, that is:
of the 16 mailing lists I've subscribed to, only 6 use "list-id".
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Gomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:05:52 +0100
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:27:51 +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The message ID will be different for each mail within a thread, but
> there is an In-Reply-To field that contains the message ID of the
> message replied to; this is used for threading. For example, copying
>> from the header of your message:
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the ID of Barbara's message
> that you replied to.
I see.
> However, sometimes threading doesn't work, either because someone
> participating in an exchange doesn't use reply or because the reply is
> to a message within a digest (which has its own message ID that is not
> connected to any thread). Or someone hits "Reply", but edits the subject
> as he really wants to start a new thread. In the first case, the thread
> breaks up into two subthreads, and in the second case, mail clients
> supporting threading will display the message within a thread it doesn't
> belong to.
Well that can happend allways that someone destroy the
thread.
>> The List-id field was only a smal problem for me. And for
>> me it's not so necessary like the possibility to sort by
>> thread.
>
> But thankfully, filtering for List-id isn't a problem at all; you can do
> it if you want. If the mail headers do contain a List-id field, that is:
> of the 16 mailing lists I've subscribed to, only 6 use "list-id".
Well at me (ok only subscribed to yahoo and mailman lists
(think yahoo also use mailman) there is a list-id.
I looked into Gyazmail (because was interested) and also
here the thread was displayed good. (without list-id).
So I asked myself how other MUA's will do it? They also
like I would say cook only with water.
But thank you for explaining it to me. Like always to learn
new things.
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Subject: resetting Spell checker to Mac OS X
From: "angel Kyodo williams | urbanPEACE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:21:41 -0800
greetings all,
i'm not sure what has happened here:
i have long had spell check working on PM just fine. recently, i got
a window saying that my trial of Spell Catcher was expired (i don't
recall downloading a trial!) and then PM started to make a sound every
time i typed a key.
so first, i quit the Spell Catcher, but PM kept giving an error message
that says "Could not contact Spell Checker"
i looked under PM's Word Services menu, but there is no option for
Spelling as there is for other Mac OS X apps.
i went to PM Preferences > Indexing & Spelling and tried to change the
application that PM is looking for to "Dictionary.app" and still get
the same error.
i trashed Spell Catcher. same error.
so i can't Quit Spell Catcher (it's a bit too expensive to buy for
what i need - just the simple spell checking that is built into Mac OS
X) but it doesn't work since it is a trial and is causing problems
elsewhere.
i've also tried trashing PM's .plist file. no luck.
any ideas about how to get PM to accept the integrated Mac OS X spell
checker or m i missing something?
thx,
angel
PM 5.5.3 | OS X 10.5.1 | Powerbook G4/1.5 | 2G RAM | 80GB HD
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Subject: Script to delete orphaned attachments?
From: "Bill Courington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:18:23 -0800
Is there such a thing? I've got about a zillion files in the Attachments
folder and I'm pretty sure (not positive) that many of them belong to
trashed messages.
Bill
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Subject: Re: Script to delete orphaned attachments?
From: "Justin Beek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:33:23 -0600
I have a script that will move the attachments in the messages to separate
folders based on the Message ID Number.
After you run the script on all your messages, any files leftover *should*
be safe to trash.
It's a pretty nice script for Spring Cleaning. For example, if you have 5
messages with 5 attachments each, you'll end up w/ 5 folders instead of 25
files.
Good Luck,
Justin
On 11/27/07 10:18 AM, "Bill Courington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there such a thing? I've got about a zillion files in the Attachments
> folder and I'm pretty sure (not positive) that many of them belong to
> trashed messages.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Script to delete orphaned attachments?
From: "Ben Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:37:11 -0800
Justin,
This sounds very useful. Can you share?
-ben
Justin Beek wrote at 10:33 AM (-0600) on 11/27/07:
>I have a script that will move the attachments in the messages to separate
>folders based on the Message ID Number.
>
>After you run the script on all your messages, any files leftover *should*
>be safe to trash.
>
>It's a pretty nice script for Spring Cleaning. For example, if you have 5
>messages with 5 attachments each, you'll end up w/ 5 folders instead of 25
>files.
>
>Good Luck,
>Justin
>
>
>On 11/27/07 10:18 AM, "Bill Courington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Is there such a thing? I've got about a zillion files in the Attachments
>> folder and I'm pretty sure (not positive) that many of them belong to
>> trashed messages.
>>
>> Bill
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--
Ben Kennedy (chief magician)
zygoat creative technical services
http://www.zygoat.ca
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