powermail-discuss Digest #2825 - Friday, April 25, 2008
Re: Powermail-emails -> Google Apps/Gmail
by "Per Åström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re(2): Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
by "Alan Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
by "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Powermail-emails -> Google Apps/Gmail
by "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
by "PowerMail Engineering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
by "Mark Gerber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Powermail-emails -> Google Apps/Gmail
From: "Per Åström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:05:58 +0200
>A
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>PS--Are you sure you want to do this? What if gmail has a hiccup and
>drops your mail, where will your backup be?
>
Not sure but I would like to try it.
I would back it up somehow using IMAP.
I've found this "Emailchemy", <http://www.weirdkid.com/products/
emailchemy/> that imports and exports different formats. That might be
useful but I havent had time to test it yet.
/per å
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Subject: Re(2): Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
From: "Alan Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:14:13 -0700
Thank you, Jérôme
I believe that these have plain text alternatives, since I can see plain
text (which I quoted in my email). Either (a) "Show Plain Text with
Header" shows text even if there isn't a plain text alternative or (b)
there is a different problem.
Can you explain further? If you want, I can send you an example email.
I use PowerMail because of its awesome indexing abilities. If it can't
index messages, I need to reconsider.
A
PowerMail Engineering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said on 4/24/08:
>Alan Harper wrote:
>
>>I was trying to find some emails, and they were not being found. The
>>emails were confirmation emails sent by Southwest.com
>
>HTML messages with no plain text alternative part are not indexed
>(except subject etc).
>
>
>Jérôme - CTM Engineering
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Subject: Re: Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
From: "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:19:54 +0200
Alan Harper sa såhär:
>I believe that these have plain text alternatives, since I can see plain
>text (which I quoted in my email). Either (a) "Show Plain Text with
>Header" shows text even if there isn't a plain text alternative or (b)
>there is a different problem.
As I've reported earlier to the list I have found that at least some
HTML-messages with no plain text part does show plain text. I speculated
then that perhaps CTM had at long last implemented My wished for feature
of turning HTML-messages to plain text. However, at the time we got no
comments from CTM and these were just a few messages and also I didn't
study the source, so I can't tell if my speculation is true or not. It
could be these only seemed to be messages with no plain text part for
some unknown reason.
While, if this feature actually exists, it could be expected from PM to
index the plain text part, I think it's possible it doesn't because I
suspect PM indexes the source itself, which wouldn't have the plain text
part. Only CTM can let us know for sure though.
Mikael
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Mikael
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Subject: Re: Powermail-emails -> Google Apps/Gmail
From: "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:27:31 +0200
Per Åström sa såhär:
>I've found this "Emailchemy", <http://www.weirdkid.com/products/
>emailchemy/> that imports and exports different formats. That might be
>useful but I havent had time to test it yet.
Why would you need that when PM exports in so many formats? Only if
Gmail needs some other format would you need to convert the exports from
PowerMail.
The main problem I suppose would be attachments that possibly could
cause problems depending on the format used and on how Gmai handles
them. I'd expect it to work though. That's my gut feeling about the
prospects anyhow.
Mikael
Technoids:
PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook
G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
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Subject: Re: Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
From: "PowerMail Engineering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:16:05 +0200
Alan Harper wrote:
>I believe that these have plain text alternatives, since I can see plain
>text (which I quoted in my email). Either (a) "Show Plain Text with
>Header" shows text even if there isn't a plain text alternative or (b)
>there is a different problem.
When HTML reader is disabled from the preferences, PowerMail uses a Mac
OS X facility, based on WebKit, to extract the text from HTML messages,
and displays the result. Unfortunately, this has proven to causes some
crashes in certain circumstances. Crashing when displaying a message is
bad, but you can relaunch PowerMail and enable HTML reader, or trash the
message without displaying it.
However, using this facility to extract the text in order to index it is
worst, as the crash would happen again on relaunch; that's why we have
disabled the indexing of HTML only messages.
Jérôme - CTM Engineering
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Subject: Re: Indexing--doesn't work for Southwest Airlines confirmations?
From: "Mark Gerber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:00:49 -0400
On 4/25/08 at 8:16 AM
AT&T told the NSA that PowerMail Engineering said:
>When HTML reader is disabled from the preferences, PowerMail uses a Mac
>OS X facility, based on WebKit, to extract the text from HTML messages,
>and displays the result. Unfortunately, this has proven to causes some
>crashes in certain circumstances. Crashing when displaying a message is
>bad, but you can relaunch PowerMail and enable HTML reader, or trash the
>message without displaying it.
From the Powermail Manual:
>PowerMail can display HTML messages using Apple's HTMLRendering library.
>This library does not display correctly certain HTML messages, and can
>hang or crash PowerMail, so you might want to disable the HTML reader,
>or to enable it only for messages that don't contain a plain text
>version of the HTML data.
Jérôme,
From what you wrote, I gather that Apple's WebKit occasionally causes
crashes and *enabling* Powermail's HTML reader will prevent that from
happening.
The quote from the manual suggests that *disabling* the HTML reader will
prevent crashes caused by Apple's HTML Rendering Library (is this WebKit?).
I'm confused. Am I reading one of these wrong?
Mark
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