On 6/5/07, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:19:53PM -0700, John Sonnenschein wrote:
> > I've got a mac mini, and I've just bought an IBM pseries from ebay
> > ( 44p-170, an old 333mhz POWER3 64-bit machine)
>
> I've been meaning to snag a 44p, but I am just not all that interested
> in throwing myself into AIX again.  Now, if I could run Solaris on one
> of those?  I'd be at paypal paying for the auction *right now*. ;)

Well, in fairness they'll run open/netBSD and linux as well ( though
mine will be getting AIX at first just to play with )

> > Personally, I think IBM POWER hardware is the most logical target,
>
> I agree.
>
> > since it'd be nice if the port would run on machines still in
> > production, however they do happen to be alternately expensive or rare.
>
> Not nessesarily.  If you work in a shop where big kit isn't something you
> cringe from (like I wish we would be here) then if it's a toss up between
> current gen SPARC and current gen POWER, I'd buy a new sexy POWER6 box in
> a heartbeat over a SPARC box, and I'm a SPARC fanatic. ;)

I meant expensive from an end-user/hobbyist/developer perspective. The
sorts of people who'd do things like port solaris to PPC for no money,
just fun

> > For a first step, 32-bit macppc hardware is the easiest & cheapest to
> > find ( old g4's aren't too expensive anymore ) and the most likely to
> > attract more developers. Even if most of us have genesi hardware, new
> > blood would have a hard time getting ahold of it
> >
> > thoughts ?
>
> I think you last point is the best one.  Yes, 44p-170s aren't all that
> expensive these days, but G4 and dual G4 macppc boxes are cheap and
> plentiful.  I'd certainly have a much better chance of being able to
> justify something like that for home than a slower, older POWER box.
> Not that I wouldn't mind a nice POWER box to replace my aging 591, but
> they are certainly not as cheap at the same performance level.
>
> My U80 rocks hard, but it's getting a bit long in the tooth.  A nice
> dual G4 running Solaris would be an interesting alternative (or extra,
> I'm certainly not decomissioning the U80 anytime soon, it's a workhorse).
> A spankin' G5 would be better of course. ;)

Indeed, but macPPC is dead, so it'll slowly dwindle out of existence.
Hence why I think we should aim for targeting in-production machines (
namely, the IBM iron, since solaris doesn't scale down very well, but
it scales up fantastically )
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