america memang bukan negara agama, tp negara america berdiri or founded by
sekelompok org kristen puritan, makanya kalo dilihat dr dasar-dasar
philosophy negaranya bnyk terkandung ajaran kristen.
kalo dilihat sejarahnya, america adalah negara religious, tp dgn
perkembangan jaman bnyk perubahan, sejak adanya amandemen pemisahan state
affairs from religious affairs.


                                                                                       
                    
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dear all,
Sikap gereja di Amerika (yang mengesahkan pernikahan sesama jenis dan
melantik seorang Gay menjadi pendeta)  semakin menyadarkan kita bahwa
Amerika bukan negara Kristen.
Semua aksi dan policy Amerika bukan untuk kepentingan Kekristenan, tapi
untuk kepentingan Amerika sendiri.
togi

dicky riyadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Africans: Pro-Gay U.S. Church Follows New Religion

Fri Oct 29,11:22 AM ET
Top Stories - Reuters
By Dino Mahtani
LAGOS (Reuters) - African bishops representing a majority of the world's
Anglicans said on Friday North American sections that embrace homosexuality
should be seen as following a different religion.

The statement by top Anglican clerics at a landmark conference in Nigeria
to determine their future marked a growing separation between conservatives
and liberals in the 70-million strong church.

The bishops told their North American counterparts to repent and ask for
forgiveness for approving same-sex marriages and consecrating Gene
Robinson, a divorced homosexual and father of two, as a bishop.

"Failure to do so would indicate that they have chosen to 'walk alone' and
follow another religion," said the statement issued by the senior clerics
from across the continent.

A report earlier this month by senior Anglican clergy urged North American
congregations to ban same-sex marriages and the ordination of gay clergy,
but stepped back from an outright condemnation of gays in a bid to
reconcile the divisions.

But African church leaders said it did not go far enough and accused the
North American communions of subverting the faith and imposing a false
doctrine.

African bishops want their continent to become the new heartland of
Anglicanism and Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola, Africa's top cleric, has
said the Church of Nigeria aims to set up branches in the United States.

Church leaders in Africa fear if Anglicanism fails to take a firm stance on
homosexuality, its parishioners -- many of whom are traditionalists who
cannot stomach the idea of gay bishops -- will desert it for evangelical
churches or Islam.

Earlier this week Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo -- a born-again
Christian -- backed African bishops in rejecting homosexuality and called
gay tendencies "unbiblical, unnatural and definitely un-African."

The bishops gathered in Nigeria have said they would not be swayed in their
rejection of ordaining gays by the lure of church funds from the liberal
West, despite Africa receiving 70 percent of its funds mainly from America.


But church leaders say the split between African bishops and their American
counterparts is not so much a geographical division as a split between the
liberal and conservative wings of the church.

Already, conservatives in the same U.S. Episcopal Church that ordained
Robinson have called his appointment "schismatic." Many of the more liberal
bishops in Africa, particularly from South Africa, have taken a softer
approach to gays and have snubbed the conference in Nigeria.


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