Mungkin mang Iwan ini kalau mau cari solusi sebuah fungsi 
differential integral lihat dulu di ayat2...

Pantes Indosia bikin pacul aja kalah ama buatan RRT....

salam

RM D Hadinoto


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bagaimana bisa dikatagorikan penyakit sosial bisakah diterangkan 
lebih diperinci lebih luas? Jangan pakai argumen agama sebaiknya ilmu 
pengetahuan diluar bidang agama supaya bisa menambah kecerdasan.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Från: Iwan Wibawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Datum: 2004/11/03 Wed AM 09:49:02 CET
> > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Ämne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara 
Krsiten ?
> > 
> > 
> > homo itu penyakit sosial, ada yang tersinggung ?, ayam saja yang 
gak punya otak, gak mau sama sejenis, koq kita yang diberi akal 
pikiran malah nyeleneh...
> > weleh..weleh udah dikasih ALLAH lubang yang maha nikmat didepan, 
kepingin dari belakang...menunjukan manusia memang tidak pernah 
bersyukur !!!
> >  
> > salam
> > IWAN
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Mahluk manusia adalah ciptaan Alloh!
> > 
> > > 
> > > Från: RG Nur Rahmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Datum: 2004/11/02 Tue PM 11:03:21 CET
> > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Ämne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara 
Krsiten ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > apa homo itu disebabkan karena gen? kan tidak ada buktinya.
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > Homo itu sudah sejak zaman purba, kiranya Tuhan imembuat 
kesalahan karena menciptakan mahluk yang kemudian diharamkan sendiri. 
Apakah ini bukan aneh bin ajaib.
> > > 
> > > Apakah Nyonya Nyai Loro Kidul itu jin atau iblis, saya tak 
tahu. tapi banyak orang pergi sembah dan malah Pak Harto pergi 
bertapa ke tempat yang katanya adalah tempat Nyai Loro Kidul. Jangan 
lupa pak Harto itu Haji dengan nama muka seperti Nabi. Rupaya 
pertapaannya diberkati oleh Nyonya Nyai Loro Kidul, maka bisa kaya 
raya bila dibandingkan dengan orang kampung yang tak bertapa, karena 
harus macul kebun dan menuai padi.
> > > 
> > > Kapan-kapan kalau saya ke Jawa lagi saya mau bertapa 40 hari, 
semoga berkatnya dilimpahkan pada saya seperti yang diberikan kepada 
Pak Harto.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Från: dicky riyadi 
> > > > Datum: 2004/11/02 Tue PM 02:30:08 CET
> > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Ämne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Iblis itu bukan cerita dulu, Mas Ambon manise.....iblis itu 
tetap ada sampai sekarang... makanya banyak kejahatan...
> > > > 
> > > > Nyonya luru kidul alias Loro Kidul itu juga keluarga jin, 
kalo mau tengok silakan datang ke parang tritis....
> > > > 
> > > > Homoseksual itu final dalam agama, yakni: haram...
> > > > 
> > > > ya pelakunya harus dihukum, atau diminta bertobat dan 
diterapi agar kembali normal..
> > > > 
> > > > tapi karena orang suka mengada-ada, jadinya homoseksual 
dianggap sbg hal yg lumrah.... sama dg seks bebas pun dianggap 
lumrah.... padahal ya tetap haram dan harus dihukum..
> > > > 
> > > > karena hukuman di sini tdk setimpal, ya hukumannya dirapel di 
neraka kelak....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Itu cerita dulu, seperti orang Jawa dulu percaya pada Nyai 
Luru Kidul. Apakah tidak sebaiknya dianggap saja sebagai cerita dari 
pada sebagai pedoman hidup. 
> > > > 
> > > > Sekarang untuk mengatur kerukunan hidup manusia ada itu 
deklarasi PBB tentang HAM dimana dinyatan dalam salah satu 
paragrafnya : orang tidak boleh dibedakan berbasiskan agama, kelamin, 
warna kulit, keturuan etc.
> > > > 
> > > > Deklarasi tsb telah menjadi dasar hukum nasional dan 
internasional demi menjamin kehidupan bersama. Celakanya ada pihak-
pihak tertentu yang karena kepentingan mereka berusaha mengabaikan 
pentingnya faedah konsesus tsb dalam kehidupan bersama manusia 
beradab.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Från: dicky riyadi 
> > > > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 08:14:07 CET
> > > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Ämne: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > lha bahkan iblis pun ciptaan Allah, tetapi kita dilarang 
menyembah iblis, memuja, dan mengikuti ajaran iblis.
> > > > > 
> > > > > gay adalah terlarang sejak jaman Nabi Luth A.S., .....jadi 
setiap Nabi yg diutus Allah melarang hubungan sejenis...apa pun 
alasannya..
> > > > > 
> > > > > kalo sekedar ciptaan Allah, lha penjahat pun juga ciptaan 
Allah... tetapi setiap aktivitas kejahatan harus dilawan...
> > > > > 
> > > > > demikian menjadi ujian bagi manusia yg bertakwa....
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > Apakah bukan mahluk ciptaan Alloh?
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Från: partogi samosir 
> > > > > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 01:44:26 CET
> > > > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Ämne: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > dear all,
> > > > > > Sikap gereja di Amerika (yang mengesahkan pernikahan 
sesama jenis dan melantik seorang Gay menjadi pendeta) semakin 
menyadarkan kita bahwa 
> > > > > > Amerika bukan negara Kristen. 
> > > > > > Semua aksi dan policy Amerika bukan untuk kepentingan 
Kekristenan, tapi untuk kepentingan Amerika sendiri.
> > > > > > togi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > dicky riyadi wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Africans: Pro-Gay U.S. Church Follows New Religion
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Fri Oct 29,11:22 AM ET
> > > > > > Top Stories - Reuters
> > > > > > By Dino Mahtani 
> > > > > > LAGOS (Reuters) - African bishops representing a majority 
of the world's Anglicans said on Friday North American sections that 
embrace homosexuality should be seen as following a different 
religion. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The statement by top Anglican clerics at a landmark 
conference in Nigeria to determine their future marked a growing 
separation between conservatives and liberals in the 70-million 
strong church. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The bishops told their North American counterparts to 
repent and ask for forgiveness for approving same-sex marriages and 
consecrating Gene Robinson, a divorced homosexual and father of two, 
as a bishop. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Failure to do so would indicate that they have chosen 
to 'walk alone' and follow another religion," said the statement 
issued by the senior clerics from across the continent. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A report earlier this month by senior Anglican clergy 
urged North American congregations to ban same-sex marriages and the 
ordination of gay clergy, but stepped back from an outright 
condemnation of gays in a bid to reconcile the divisions. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But African church leaders said it did not go far enough 
and accused the North American communions of subverting the faith and 
imposing a false doctrine. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > African bishops want their continent to become the new 
heartland of Anglicanism and Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola, Africa's 
top cleric, has said the Church of Nigeria aims to set up branches in 
the United States. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Church leaders in Africa fear if Anglicanism fails to 
take a firm stance on homosexuality, its parishioners -- many of whom 
are traditionalists who cannot stomach the idea of gay bishops -- 
will desert it for evangelical churches or Islam. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Earlier this week Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo -- 
a born-again Christian -- backed African bishops in rejecting 
homosexuality and called gay tendencies "unbiblical, unnatural and 
definitely un-African." 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The bishops gathered in Nigeria have said they would not 
be swayed in their rejection of ordaining gays by the lure of church 
funds from the liberal West, despite Africa receiving 70 percent of 
its funds mainly from America. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But church leaders say the split between African bishops 
and their American counterparts is not so much a geographical 
division as a split between the liberal and conservative wings of the 
church. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Already, conservatives in the same U.S. Episcopal Church 
that ordained Robinson have called his appointment "schismatic." Many 
of the more liberal bishops in Africa, particularly from South 
Africa, have taken a softer approach to gays and have snubbed the 
conference in Nigeria. 
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