aduhh..mana ada maling yg mau ngaku....begitu juga byk yg maling teriak 'maling!'. Apakah saudara2 bilang pemerkosaan tidak terjadi?? Ato bahkan mau ingkar bahwa penjarahan tidak terjadi? Di Indonesia dari dulu diskriminasi terhadap org Tionghoa tidak pernah hilang...dari jaman 60 an kek sampe sekarang. Padahal org chinese juga ikut dlm perjuangan kemerdekaan. Liat aja contoh seperti malaysia n singapore (tetangga aja lhoo!!!)yg tidak racist, negara makmur dan maju. Trus, dituduh orang chinese kaya raya krn korupsi dll. Yang korupsi itu hanya bbrp org yg dekat ke Soeharto, jgn disamakan donk semuanya. Tionghoa yg lain kerja keras siang malam, banting tulang. Yang korupsi itu yahh pejabat-pejabat, menteri-menteri. Kita malah dijadikan obyek pemerasan dari mau ngurus KTP sampe surat2 ini itu, perlu SKBRI lah, perlu uang sogok lahh... Mau kaya? kerja donk jgn jarah....jangan malas....jangan memeras....jangan racist!!! Mau tau caranya? Hemat kalo punya duit..jangan dapat 1000 rupiah mau habiskan 2000rupiah...lbh beser pasak dari tiangnya. Kek warung di dekat sekolah saya, dapat duit lgsg tutup warung pulang kampung. bahh..kalo gitu mana bisa maju n kaya... If u ask me ttg indo...I am Indonesian, I was born there, My hometown there, I am proud to be Indonesian...BUT NOT to be called as WNI-K ato dll....For me, all are indonesians... Seperti temen2 malaysia and singapore saya baik Tamil, Chinese, Malay semua bangga jadi org malaysia n singapore. We must learn from them...Indonesians! Cheers =) Ambon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Blow up atau tidak adalah masalah hukum berazaskan berdiri sama tinggi duduk sama rendah. Para pengugat mengajukan masalah dan penguasa hukum harus melaksanakan tugas sebagaimana mestinya agar bisa selesai tanpa berat sebelah.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mas Bagong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: May '98 riot (5): Modern holocaust in Indonesia > Lhah, wong sudah jelas kok Broer... > Bahwa masalah mei itu di'blow-up' hanya untuk diskriminasi kelompok > tertentu untuk kepentingan tertentu khan? Coba ingat nggak kasus > kematian satu orang cina yang katanya adalah saksi mei? Ternyata dia > bukan diperkosa tetapi justru hubungan seks-nya sudah dilakukan sejak > lama, bahkan waktu itu berkembang isu bahwa ia dibunuh untuk menutup > mulut... EH, setelah diselidiki ia dibunuh karena memergoki > tetangganya yang mau nyolong, so what? > > > On 5/6/05, Ambon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Masalahnya dilihat kasus demi kasus. Kalau dilihat dengan cara pengertian >> Anda maslahnya bisa gado-gado tak ada penyelesaiannya dari segi hukum. >> Cara >> >> pemikiran demikian menurut hematku adalah penghambat dalam membuat >> Indonesia negara yang berazaskan hukum yang beradab. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mas Bagong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:59 AM >> Subject: [ppiindia] Re: May '98 riot (5): Modern holocaust in Indonesia >> >> >> > Wueleh...wueleh.... >> > Berita 'sampah' macam begini masih dipercaya? ck..ck..ck... >> > Kalau mau lihat 'holocaust' sana pergi ke papua! lihat aja berapa >> > banyak orang mati karena keserakahan cukong-cukong di Papua sana! >> > Orang cina mati saat kerusuhan mei? berapa banyak sih? Berapa banyak >> > bila dibandingkan dengan Tiananmen? Berapa banyak dibandingkan dengan >> > yang dibunuh PKI sejak 48 hingga 65 sebelum mereka ditumpes kelor? >> > Atau berapa banyak bila dibandingkan dengan yang dibunuh Westerling di >> > tahun 40-an? >> > Diperkosa? Ternyata gambar-gambar itu 'fake' yang diambil dari filem >> > porno amoi itu sendiri! Coba aja browsing ke Internet... >> > DG >> > >> > >> > On 5/5/05, jonathangoeij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Modern holocaust in Indonesia >> >> >> >> History will always remember the Hitler and the Jewish >> >> holocaust that killed millions of Jews. Families still >> >> live till today and see clearly the horror of those >> >> darkest and helpless days of their life. >> >> >> >> History will always remember everything that the human >> >> race tells it to write, although consciously and >> >> powerfully some of us try to manipulate the facts and >> >> truths contained in it. G30S will be among the list, >> >> where until this very day 200 millions of Indonesians >> >> have never been told that in the incident of September >> >> 30th in 1965, when Soeharto threw over the Indonesian >> >> Communist Party, which then also took over power from >> >> President Soekarno, there were 1 million innocent >> >> Indonesians slaughtered, being accused and slandered >> >> blindly that they were communists. >> >> >> >> May 1998 was an intense month for politic in >> >> Indonesia. The Asian Crisis was not getting any >> >> gentler to the people of Indonesia. At the same time, >> >> the elite, the political players, knew that Soeharto's >> >> time was coming closer, and even Soeharto and his >> >> family also understood this. The system that Soeharto >> >> built worked just fine, therefore, the elite wanted to >> >> keep the system, and just changed the old guards. On >> >> the other hand, the people and the grass root, >> >> demanded total reformation, civil society and >> >> democratic system. People were tired being oppressed >> >> every day and being used all the time by the very >> >> government who were supposed to protect and serve >> >> them, by the system that Soeharto built for 30 years. >> >> >> >> The following pictures provided by Tim Relawan (The >> >> Volunteer Team for Humanitarian Causes) speak very >> >> vividly about what took place during May 13-15 >> >> HOLOCAUST in Indonesia - Indonesian Holocaust. >> >> >> >> Riots were engineered and executed very professionally >> >> and viciously. The urban poor were set to be trapped >> >> inside buildings and then burnt to dead by these >> >> unknown force (and yet they exist till this very day). >> >> At the end of the day, there were 2244 burnt bodies >> >> collected from various places in Indonesia. >> >> >> >> Females from Ethnic Chinese descent, and those who >> >> look alike, were raped brutally, the kind of gang >> >> rapes that took place in Bosnia and East Timor. >> >> Females were raped in front of their families by >> >> several people, some of them were killed after being >> >> sexually abused and mutilated. Male members of the >> >> family were forced to rape the female members of the >> >> family. Glasses, curtain rods, metal rods were used to >> >> mutilate the female private parts, after they were >> >> being raped. On and on are the reports. >> >> >> >> People live with very little supplies these days in >> >> Indonesia, rapes are still taking place with no effort >> >> from government to stop this at all (should we >> >> translate the no-real-action from the Government of >> >> Indonesia, as their "blessing" to the most evil >> >> humiliation to the weakest members of society). >> >> >> >> History is writing all these stories, even the stories >> >> of those who are very helpless and hopeless today. >> >> Victims and families are terrorized and intimidated, >> >> their phone lines are tab. Volunteer helpers are >> >> harassed and intimidated, including doctors and >> >> psychiatrists. The victims are prisoned and confined >> >> in their own little rooms, full of trauma and >> >> desperation, lonely and full of shame. >> >> >> >> History is also writing that today millions of people >> >> around the world are not accepting this modern >> >> holocaust in Indonesia anymore. >> >> >> >> http://www.fica.org/prototype/may-riots/korban/thumb.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *************************************************************************** >> >> Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju >> >> Indonesia >> >> >> yg >> >> Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. www.ppi-india.org >> >> >> *************************************************************************** >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Mohon Perhatian: >> >> >> >> 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg >> >> otokritik) >> >> 2. 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