Wuah negara berdaulat diserang secara militer dengan
alasan senjata pemusnah massal. Lalu dikatakan, yang
penting Saddam Hausein jatuh. Disebut juga Irak sudah
menerapkan demokrasi liberal. Kenapa bilang SULIT
SEKALI MENCARI SIAPA SALAH SIAPA BENAR ?

Coba deh tarik hubungan antara bukunya John Perkins
dengan bukunya Michael Hudson Super Imperialism. Juga
dengan buku Noam Chomsky dan Robert Gilpin.
Kita patut membuka mata dan pengetahuan yang luas
serta mendalam agar tidak dijerumuskan ke dalam jurang
parahnya demokrasi liberal. 
--- Samudjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kalo ngikuti iklannya Mild: How low can you go
> Itulah yang terjadi di Irak saat ini, sulit sekali
> mencari siapa yang benar
> siapa yang salah.
> Sebab dari awal tujuannya kan siapa yang menang
> Masing-masing kontestan mempunyai opini yang
> didukung oleh berbagai bukti
> yang menunjang opininya itu
> OK OK aja sih, yang penting kita tetap
> mempertahankan posisi kita hanya
> sebagai pengamat
> Terserah kepada yang nglakoni untuk memutuskan apa
> yang terbaik untuk mereka
> Kita bukan Tuhan yang berwewenang untuk menghukum
> suatu bangsa.
> Paling jauh kita sampaikan pendapat kita dan kita
> kirimi bantuan kemanusiaan
> untuk mengurangi akibat-akibat bencana perang.
> Itu saja barangkali,
> Samudjo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carla Annamarie"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: Ini bukan propaganda
> 
> 
> >
> > hard Facts :
> > 1. it seems ppl nearly forgot the saddam invasion
> to kuwait in 1991, as i
> > recalled kuwait government and its ppl asked for
> US assistance, and it was
> > in TV and  broadcasted in worldwide.., even many
> ppl accused for US hidden
> > agenda for oil..but untill now we re fully aware
> that most country that
> > have an oil agreement in kuwait re european
> countries not US..
> > and we know that ppl of kuwait lives..and not
> under rezime or
> > persecution..., i wonder if US didnt take the
> action of saving kuwait, by
> > then perhaps saddam not only invaded kuwait but
> also all arabs nation..
> >  i think before US freed iraq from saddam rezime,
> the ppl of iraq is under
> > thread, persecution, massacres, and killings..
> > and perhaps if there're facts no suicide bombs
> when saddam was still in
> > charge, the answer for simple..the suicide
> killings wont works for
> > saddam.., suicide bombs wont stop him.., besides
> he and his intelligent
> > already prevent that from happenings.
> > 2. the massacre of women and children.., as i
> recalled most terrorist take
> > advantage of women and children as a living
> shield, if the soldiers found
> > out their place of hiding or targetting their
> place, they oftens used
> women
> > and children as a divertion or shield, bcs they
> know that US soldiers wont
> > fired a shot in every circumstances especially  if
> there're any civilians
> > in combat...but the terrorist knew that so they
> use that kinda low
> > tactics.., bcs for terrorist everything is
> dispenseable  for their cause..
> > 3. logika invasi US, i think for iraqi ppl is not
> an invasion but is
> > freedom..if u could asked all the ppl of iraq and
> kurdi after their
> > liberation from saddam..u could see the
> gratefulnes in their eyes..but now
> > after many confrontation from the terrorist
> perhaps from ppl that still
> > loyal to saddam and more over there's dispute
> between internal islamic
> > group in iraq has bcs the main probs in iraq...
> >
> > i think if we look at the basic issue here, that
> each of us have a
> > different view regarding the subject..war is not
> the answer still the
> > casualties always the innocent ppl.., freedom
> takes sacrificies and
> courage
> > to sacrifies...perhaps from all this time since WW
> II, korean War, Vietnam
> > War, Cold War, kuwait War, Bosnia-Serbia War, and
> now Iraq War, american
> > always enter the wrong war for the sake of
> freedom..., and it's not for
> the
> > sake of its own ppl.."american ppl" but for the
> freedom of others...,
> > ironically funny but it's the hard facts...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       Faruq Saniyasnain
> >                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:
> ppiindia@yahoogroups.com
> >                       o.co.uk>                 cc:
> >                       Sent by:                
> Subject:  Re: [ppiindia]
> Re: Ini bukan propaganda
> >                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >                       ups.com
> >
> >
> >                       05/08/2005 04:06
> >                       PM
> >                       Please respond to
> >                       ppiindia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hard facts:
> >
> > 1. kasus bom bunuh diri tidak pernah sekalipun
> terjadi
> > sebelum invasi AS ke Irak.
> >
> > 2. pembunuhan massal (massacre)--yg berarti
> termasuk
> > wanita dan anak2-- yg dilakukan AS di fallujah
> > terutama, dan di tempat lain jauh lebih besar.
> >
> > 3. logika invasi AS terbukti berubah2; dari WMD,
> > toppling saddam dan demokratisasi. semua berdasar
> > moralitas dan peradaban which again contrary to
> the
> > fact.
> >
> > 4. saddam melakukan penjagalan juga pada masa dia
> > berkuasa yg dikutuk dunia; kecuali AS yg
> memanfaatkan
> > Saddam untuk menyerang iran.
> >
> > bung kim hook, you cannot be a good analyst if u
> just
> > use half of ur brain to catch half of the truth.
> >
> > cheers up,
> >
> >
> > --- farid bajber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > salah satu kebodohan yang tidak bisa dimaafkan
> adalah
> > kesalahan fatal generalisasi. semakin spesifik
> data,
> > semakin akurat penelitian, semakin tinggi nilai
> > keilmuannya. Posting kedua kelihatannya mulai
> sadar:
> > "Zarkawi dan anggota penteror yang datang dari
> luar
> > Irak" (lebih spesifik) namun masih belum
> jelas...tahu
> > ngak apa yang diomongin...
> > orang yang paling bodoh adalah yang tidak tahu apa
> > yang diomongin.....sama saja dengan angin
> busuk....
> >
> > FB
> > Di Irak Selatan
> >
> >
> >
> > kim3hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Tidak usah bertele-tele seperti itu menanyakan apa
> itu
> > penteror
> > di Irak. Karena semua orang yang rajin membaca
> berita
> > yang
> > berkisar di Irak, pasti akan tau siapa
> mereka-mereka
> > itu. Karena
> > hampir setiap kejadian, selalu mereka akui melalui
> > corong Al Jazira.
> >
> >
> >
> > Faruq Saniyasnain
> > (Manchester)
> 
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