Saya tidak sanggup memberikan keterangan lebih jauh Terlebih Mas sendiri sudah sangat berpengalaman di perbankan Yang bisa saya lakukan adalah berdoa, Semoga Mas mendapatkan hidayah, dapat melihat bahwa yang benar itu benar Serta mempunyai nyali untuk mempertahankannya Pengalaman dan kompetensi yang Mas miliki akan membuat suatu perbedaan yang nyata Semoga, Samudjo ----- Original Message ----- From: "RM Danardono HADINOTO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Ekonomi Islam vs Ekonomi Neo-Liberal
> Mas, saya tak pernah malam malam nyatronin bank, nanti ditangkap > polisi. Dan saya kalau malam tidur, mas. > > Kedua, bank Yahudi itu yang mana ya? Disini tak ada satu bankpun yang > pakai nama "Jewish Bank". Mengenali orang itu Yahudi itu bagaimana ya? > > Ketiga, pinjaman besok bisa bertambah itu bagaimana caranya? saya > sudah puluhan tahun dalam bidang banking belum lihat tuh? kapitalnya > kan makin berkurang, lha wong dicicil. Bunga juga tak bertambah lha > wong dibayar tiap bulan. Dan tiba tiba, itu bagaimana? kita pakai > rumus time x % x capital dalam menghitung bunga. Gak ada rumus lain > tuh? Mungkin kalau pakai tuyul uang bisa tiba tiba tambah, tapi ini > gak perlu orang Yahudi, doa saja di gunung Kawi.. > > Duit bukan tumbuh tumbuhan itu saya setuju. Mau belajar mengenai duit > belajar ekonomi, mau belajar tumbuh tumbuhan belajar botani. kalau > mas maksud "bunga" itu memang keblingernya bahasa Indonesia. dalam > bahasa lain, namanya juga bukan "flower" kok mas, tetapi "interest". > Kita katakan "Zins". > > Bank Yahudi itu yang mana to? kalau ketemu kita lempari batu yuk? > > salam > > danardono > > > --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, "Samudjo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apakah Kangmas pernah malam-malam nyatronin banknya yahudi? > > Kabarnya disana selalu terjadi keajaiban > > Jumlah pinjaman koq tiba-tiba besoknya bisa bertambah > > Duit itu bukan tumbuh-tumbuhan lho Mas yang bisa berbunga > > Bagaimanapun juga konsep riba adalah konsep yang salah > > Karena terpaksa saya ikuti sistim yang salah itu > > Mencicil hutang berbunga > > Mudah-mudahan Allah mau mengampuni saya, > > Robana dholamna anfusana wa ilam taghfirlana wa laa tarhamna lana > kunana > > minal khosirin > > Amin, > > Samudjo > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RM Danardono HADINOTO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:56 PM > > Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Ekonomi Islam vs Ekonomi Neo-Liberal > > > > > > > Mas Samudjo: "...... tapi menghidupkan kembali prinsip-prinsip > > > > berdagang yang benar. Gitu kalee,....." > > > > > > DH: Kali apeee mas? berdagang yang benar bagi sisi mana? kaum > > > pekerja? kaum menengah/niagawan? kaum industrialis? pelaku pasar? > > > partai yang berkuasa? lobby DN? lobby LN? > > > > > > Emangnya maen pasaran pake biji sawo? > > > > > > Salam > > > > > > danardono > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, "Samudjo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Persediaan emas dan perak di seluruh dunia mungkin hanya cukup > untuk > > > > transaksi kontan kecil-kecilan saja. > > > > Apabila sistim ini akan diterapkan, badan intermediari perbankan > > > tetap > > > > diperlukan terutama untuk menangani transaksi besar-besaran > > > > Tak perlu segala mas dan perak itu digotong kesana kemari, cukup > > > dioffsetkan > > > > dalam suatu lembaga kliring saja. > > > > Yang jelas dengan sistim ini, perekonomian akan berjalan > berdasarkan > > > > transaksi riil yang ada, ekonomi rente yang sekarang berlaku > > > ternyata hanya > > > > ngegedein entropi ajah, akibatnya dengan suatu tiupan george > soros > > > bisa > > > > meluluh lantakan macan (kardus) asia. > > > > Dalam hal ini bukan backwardisme, tapi menghidupkan kembali > prinsip- > > > prinsip > > > > berdagang yang benar. > > > > Gitu kalee, > > > > Samudjo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "sawi dewi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:21 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: Ekonomi Islam vs Ekonomi Neo-Liberal > > > > > > > > > > > > Akur Bung Dono ! > > > > kadang kala aku geli sendiri baca situs ini. Satu sisi semangat > > > banget > > > > dengan nilai-nilai spiritualisme islma eit...rada keliru nilai- > nilai > > > > religius, hingga romantisme sejarah dengan keagungan ( ? ) masa > lalu > > > > dihidupkan kembali tanpa "melek" dengan kondisi hari ini dan > > > perubahan > > > > mendatang. > > > > > > > > lagi pula, emas atau perak selain tidak fleksible juga hanya > akan > > > dimonopoli > > > > oleh kelompok kapitalis lagi, maksudnya ya kelompok tertentu > lagi, > > > getoeh > > > > loeh... > > > > Apa ya itru islmai ? Itu kan cap aja. > > > > > > > > Sekarang yang terpenting bukan islami atau tidaknya (walah kok > jadi > > > ngekeor > > > > yah..), tapi apakah sistem ekonomi itu dapat mengatur dan > menjamin > > > semua > > > > orang atau tidak. Jika tidak ya bubarkan saja. > > > > > > > > > > > > .... kurang menjawab persoalan... > > > > kerikil kecil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RM Danardono HADINOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Ya ampun,mBak, > orang > > > > orang ini pernah baca pustaka ekonomi atau tidak > > > > ya? > > > > > > > > Kalau negara negara adidaya sekular, ikut ikutan memakai kembali > > > > (back to the past) standard emas, lalu apa negara negara miskin > > > > islami di Afrika, Asia dan lain lain, gak tetap keteteran? > > > > > > > > Lain kalau kita memiliki lampu wasiatnya Aladdin.. > > > > > > > > Salam > > > > > > > > danardono > > > > > > > > --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, "fauziah swasono" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, A Nizami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Ekonomi Islam vs Ekonomi Neo-Liberal > > > > > > Ditulis oleh M. Arif Adiningrat dan Farid Wadjdi > > > > > > Sabtu, 21 Mei 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Liberalisasi keuangan: diterima atau ditolak? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dalam hal ini, Negara Khilafah akan menerapkan sistem > > > > > > mata uang dengan standar emas dan perak, bukan dolar. > > > > > > Dengan demikian, sistem moneter internasional akan > > > > > > terjadi secara adil. Siapapun yang ingin mencetak uang > > > > > > kertas harus mengupayakan persediaan emas dan perak > > > > > > yang setara. Berbeda dengan saat ini, AS hanya tinggal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Bretton Woods system :-) > > > > > > > > > > One of the chief features of the Bretton Woods system was an > > > > > obligation for each country to adopt a monetary policy that > > > > maintained > > > > > the exchange rate of its currency within a fixed value-plus or > > > minus > > > > > one percent-in terms of gold. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > ***** > > > > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju > > > Indonesia yg > > > > Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. http://www.ppi- > > > india.org > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > ***** > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > > Mohon Perhatian: > > > > > > > > 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg > > > otokritik) > > > > 2. Pesan yg akan direply harap dihapus, kecuali yg akan > dikomentari. > > > > 3. Reading only, http://dear.to/ppi > > > > 4. Satu email perhari: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 5. No-email/web only: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 6. kembali menerima email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Cultural diversity Indonesian languages Indonesian language > learn > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "ppiindia" on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > ***** > > > > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju > > > Indonesia yg > > > > Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. http://www.ppi- > > > india.org > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > ***** > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > > Mohon Perhatian: > > > > > > > > 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg > > > otokritik) > > > > 2. Pesan yg akan direply harap dihapus, kecuali yg akan > dikomentari. > > > > 3. Reading only, http://dear.to/ppi > > > > 4. Satu email perhari: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 5. No-email/web only: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 6. kembali menerima email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this communication is > > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom > it is > > > addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain > > > confidential, legally privileged information or otherwise > protected > > > by law from disclosure and is intended solely for the use of the > > > addressee. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby > > > notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any > > > action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > > > prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically > stated > > > by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those > of > > > the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of > PT > > > Apexindo Pratama Duta Tbk. If you received this email in error, > > > please immediately notify the sender or our email administrator at > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete it from your system. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > ***** > > > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju > Indonesia > > yg Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. http://www.ppi- > india.org > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > ***** > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > > > Mohon Perhatian: > > > > > > 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg > otokritik) > > > 2. Pesan yg akan direply harap dihapus, kecuali yg akan > dikomentari. > > > 3. Reading only, http://dear.to/ppi > > > 4. Satu email perhari: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 5. No-email/web only: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 6. kembali menerima email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this communication is > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is > addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain > confidential, legally privileged information or otherwise protected > by law from disclosure and is intended solely for the use of the > addressee. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby > notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any > action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated > by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of > the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT > Apexindo Pratama Duta Tbk. If you received this email in error, > please immediately notify the sender or our email administrator at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete it from your system. Thank you. > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju Indonesia yg Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. http://www.ppi-india.org > *************************************************************************** > __________________________________________________________________________ > Mohon Perhatian: > > 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg otokritik) > 2. Pesan yg akan direply harap dihapus, kecuali yg akan dikomentari. > 3. Reading only, http://dear.to/ppi > 4. Satu email perhari: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 5. No-email/web only: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 6. kembali menerima email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential, legally privileged information or otherwise protected by law from disclosure and is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Apexindo Pratama Duta Tbk. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender or our email administrator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete it from your system. Thank you. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Give at-risk students the materials they need to succeed at DonorsChoose.org! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Ryu7JD/LpQLAA/E2hLAA/BRUplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> *************************************************************************** Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju Indonesia yg Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. http://www.ppi-india.org *************************************************************************** __________________________________________________________________________ Mohon Perhatian: 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg otokritik) 2. Pesan yg akan direply harap dihapus, kecuali yg akan dikomentari. 3. Reading only, http://dear.to/ppi 4. Satu email perhari: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. No-email/web only: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6. kembali menerima email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ppiindia/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
