fact must be fair...

in US there're more mosques than churches in arab countries.
we roll out the red carpet for the immigrant Muslims, treat them as we would 
with our own citizens, give them stipends, medical care, and free education. 

in EU countries, they re many moslem immigrant who lives freely, building they 
mosques, they lives by our tax, we gave them our country to live, we gave them 
medical n education n financial support, there're many students from arabs 
countries who grant scholarship from our countries (EU and US).

Western governments have allowed Muslim communities to settle in their 
countries, offered financial aid in building their mosques, and allowed them to 
bring Imams from Muslim lands. why were some propagandists of political Islam 
allowed to settle in Western countries? 

Millions of Muslims come to the ‘Infidel West’ and live in it, in peace and 
tranquility. In fact the proportional number of mosques in the West is greater 
than in Islamic lands. For example there are more than one thousand mosques in 
Britain, while the number of Muslims living there is around two million! At the 
same time, Copts in Egypt are not allowed to build new churches unless they get 
permission from the President; and obtaining the needed permit for that is 
almost impossible. Furthermore, when a Christian comes to Saudi Arabia, he is 
not allowed to bring his Bible with him; if he has one, it is confiscated at 
the airport!

“Muslims enjoy complete freedom of worship in the West; in fact they have more 
freedom in Western lands than in Islamic countries. Actually, religious freedom 
for Muslims is granted only and uniquely to the type of Islam that is 
sanctioned by the state. 

Thus, Shi’ites living in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia don’t enjoy the freedom to 
express their own type of Islam. As for Iran, the case is reversed, since 
Shi’ism is the official religion of the state, Sunni Muslims do not enjoy 
complete freedom. It is a fact that no mosque has been bombed in any Western 
country, whereas attacks on mosques, [both Sunni and Shi’ite mosques] often 
happen in Islamic countries .





----- Original Message ----
From: hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:58:01 AM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ppiindia] Re: Kelompok minoritas muslim mengalami 
diskriminasi (saya juga sangat sedih)


Nambahin pak...

Dalam bahasa singkat adalah sbb :

Ketika menjadi minoritas, non muslim menonjolkan "cinta kasih".
Ketika menjadi mayoritas, non muslim terlihat aslinya kepada umat Islam 
al: diskriminasi, mempersulit pendirian masjid, stigma negatif, genocida dsb.

Gimana mbah? salah apa benar mbah?
Pls be fair.

Salam fair

Hakim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: hariss_ypmi@ yamaha-motor. co.id 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ppiindia] Re: Kelompok minoritas muslim mengalami 
diskriminasi (saya juga sangat sedih)

pak samsidar..just info ya, pak raden ini bukan orang kristen, ga tahu deh 
agamanya apa? ga jelas :)

tetep ajah minoritas di sini lebih 'unjuk gigi' ketimbang minoritas muslim 
di negara kafir. Lha minoritas di sini kebakaran jenggot dg bunyi sila 1 
pancasila 'menjalankan syariat islam bagi pemeluknya' trus skrng bunyinya 
gimana tuh? hehe
minoritas di sini emang top, sering usil jg, walau ga semua, ada jg yg 
baik (kaya'nya pak raden ga termasuk tuh) yah ada ajah anak nakalnya 
(kaya' sapa ya? :p), nah giliran 'dijewer' ajah nangis deh merengek2, yg 
katanya muslimnya melanggar ham lah inilah itulah hehe udh gede jgn 
cengeng aah

Samsidar Situmorang <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id> 
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11/28/2007 10:40 AM
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juga sangat sedih)

Bung Dono,
memangnya bukan di negerimu juga? kamu tinggal dimana?
dari dulu yang namanya minoritas tentu harus menghormati yang mayoritas ( 
namanya tau diri), ini juga namanya 'tepo seliro' kata orang jawa 
(bukankah kamu yang lebih ngerti sebagai keturunan darah biru ..kok malah 
lagak Bego?)
islam, kristen, hindu dan agama lain, kulit hitam, semuanya susah 
mendapatkan keadilan bila jadi minoritas, itu sudah hukum alam, wong 
dasarnya manusia memang susah berbuat adil..
makanya elo jangan ngomong seenak perut sendiri....memangny a kamu tinggal 
dimana?? kok lagaknya sok tau betul dengan negeri ini.
elo pernah dengar sejarah-nya kristen di Bali???? bagaimana mereka 
dipinggirkan? ???
bagaimana sejarah islam di Bali?
sejarah Islam di Manado?
elo ngomong asal keluar mulut saja....memangnya kamu sendiri yang 
kristiani??
gue saranin elo musti belajar lagi deh

----- Pesan Asli ----
Dari: RM Danardono HADINOTO <rm_danardono@ yahoo.de>
Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com
Terkirim: Rabu, 28 November, 2007 7:43:48
Topik: [ppiindia] Re: Kelompok minoritas muslim mengalami diskriminasi 
(saya juga sangat sedih)

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, sFe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:

>

> Muslim Filipina Berharap Undang-Undang Anti-Diskriminasi Segera 

Disahkan Selasa, 27 Nov 07 15:54 WIB

> 

> Warga Muslim Filipina kini sedang berharap-harap cemas, akankah 

wakil rakyat di negeri itu mau mengesahkan undang-undang anti-

diskriminasi. Karena keberadaan undang-undang ini secara tidak 

langsung akan berpengaruh bagi kehidupan mereka sebagai warga 

minoritas di negara yang mayoritas penduduknya beragama Katolik itu.

> 

*** Urus dulu, bagaimana minoritas diperlakukan oleh umat Muslim di 

negeri anda sendiri, sebelum melirik ke negeri orang. Bacalah 

penutupan rumah rumah ibadah dan perlakuan mempersulit pendirian 

rumah ibadah.

Tambahan ya: Muslim di Philippina membuat ONAR dengan kekuatan 

senjata, di negeri anda, Non Muslim malah yang kasih nafkah pada 

anda! dari pembantu rumah tangga, buruh pabrik sampai satpam satpam 

dan pemulung di hunian hunian menengah keatas semua diberi makan 

pengusaha atau pemilik realestat Non Muslim. perusahaan perusahaan 

terbesar pembayar pajak siapa sih? Lalu di Philippina bagaimana?

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