so Yustam, tell me something, do you seriously believe that this syech married this little girl or this innocent child based on love? and this innocent young ones actually love him and understand about marriage? this 11 yeard old child is a child, she should be out there playing with her friends, she still a minor. she should not even been thinking or even engaging sex with anyone esp someone with the same age or older than her granpa. could you visualize in your head this innocent child on her first sexual act with this syech, dont you think she probably screaming for her mommy oor her daddy when he forced himselves to her. how about her basic human right as a human being? dont she has a voice, a right, or dignity? grown up suppose to protect children. abuse means violation of basic right. this child basic right has been violated. her innocent has been slaugthered. pedophile comes in many forms, some are child pornography, for some are go to places that offered children for sex, but some are more religious one, bcs this pedophile justified their action based on religion. actually they all just the same, different clothes but the same person. still a beast in different clothes. A common attitude among people is that child molesters are heartless, selfish, uncaring individuals looking to attack and harm children for the joy of it. However, research indicates that this is not always the case. According to Gilgun (1995) child molesters often believe that they are expressing love to their victims. They believe that their victims enjoy the attention and care they receive and that what they are doing to the child is acceptable. In addition, child molesters often believe that they are expressing a romantic love and that their victims are returning this love. They believe that the sexual feelings are mutual. Gilgun (1995) found that many child molesters display evidence of fragmented thoughts. The research indicates that while child molesters believe that they are expressing great love and caring for their victims and fail to see anything wrong with their actions. just wanna make it simple for you, an old man wanna marry or married a 7, 8 , or 11 year old child, what do you think about that? do you believe that he acted based on love and respect of the child? and the child also returning his love and have an understanding about marriage? what do you think about an old man marrying and engaging sex with an innocent child (lets say 7 or 11 year old little girl)?what your heart and mind tell you abt that? whether people want to justify this psychopathic behaviour, the fact is the child is the victim here. so if many people try to justify or just stood silent and ignorance (they dont condemn nor support it). just picture this, what if it happen to your family, your little girl, your little niece, and granddaugther? what if some well-known respectable and religious syech came to you wanna marry your little girl, so in whatever reason you agree, would you able to look into your child eyes and saying to her that it's ok. so Yustam could you kindly answer my questions above? parents should protect their children, father should be the one who protect his innocent children with his own life. if not. they should not be called a father. waiting for your answer. Carla
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, yustamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: yustamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ppiindia] Re: INDONESIA SORGA PARA PEDOPHILE (was Fwd: Syech Puji Nikahi Bocah 11 Tahun) To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:11 PM *** Terus terang ibu bambang ini tidak paham arti pedophile, menurut wikipedia pidophile sbb, The term pedophile is commonly used to describe all child sexual abuse offenders. Padahal sang syech tidak melakukan abuse terhadap anak tersebut. Perlu sekali ibu belajar tentang pedophile sebelum menuduh seseorang. apalagi membawa-bawa orang asing ke indonesia yang seakan-akan banyak menikahi wanita islam karena seks. Yang kita tahu di bali banyak warga Australia yang pedophile dan di jakarta ada robot gedhek yang melakukan abuse terhadap anak-anak laki-laki, ini adalah kejahatan. jadi ibu harus membedakan bahwa pedophile itu berhubungan dengan abuse. anehnya lagi ibu ini menolak ruu pornograpphy padahal pedophile itu berhubungan dengan seks, di mana seks itu berhubungan dengan yang porno-porno, anak-anak kecil yang telanjang saja bisa membuat seorang pedophile untuk melakukan kejahatan, apalagi kalo orang dewasa yang memperlihatkan kepornoan, maka seorang bukan pedophile pun akan teransang dan melakukan ABUSE. jadi SADAR-lah bu Bambang . . . salam --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "Ibu Bambang" <ibu.bambang@ ...> wrote: > > Terus terang Ibu miris sekali dengan pemberitaan di bawah ini. > Bagaimana tidak, negara yang kita cintai ini bisa menjadi sasaran kaum > pedophile > dari manca negara. > > Khan syarat nya gampang sekali (asal tahu): > > - Convert Agama ke Islam (rubah nama - rubah penampilan yg Islami - kalau > perlu pakai baju koko putih, kopiah putih, jidat di hitamkan) > - Cari gadis belia calon mempelai/korban (Usia 7 tahun kalau perlu) > - Nikahi secara Siri atau Mut'ah (keuntungan nikah Mut'ah - bisa di cerai > kapan pun) > - Bisa ambil 4 Istri/Korban sekaligus > > Gimana nih DPR - Pejabat Negara ------ Apakah *RUU Porno mu bisa melindungi > anak gadis belia* di negara kita dari kasus-kasus seperti ini ????? > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Syech Puji Nikahi Bocah 11 Tahun > *"Saya Akan Nikahi Lagi yang 9 dan 7 Tahun" > *Amril Amarullah > VIVAnews.Com - Diprotes banyak kalangan, niat Kiai Pujiono Cahyo Widianto > atau lebih dikenal sebagai Syech Puji menikahi anak dibawah umur bakal jalan > terus. > Setelah menikahi bocah 11 tahun, kiai nyentrik ini malah punya rencana > menikahi bocah lain yang usianya lebih muda yakni 9 tahun. > > Bagi Syech Puji, pernikahan ini adalah bagian dari rencananya untuk memiliki > empat istri. Hebatnya, istri pertama sang syech berperan aktif dalam mencari > bini muda untuk sang suami. "Asal Anda tahu, jusru istri saya yang > mencarikan calon-calon istri saya itu," katanya kepada Amril Amarullah dari > VIVAnews. Berikut petikannya: > > *Setelah ini ada niat menikahi gadis di bawah umur lagi?* > > Iya target aku punya empat istri, setelah aku menikahi istri kedua ini, akan > saya nikahi dua lagi. Bahkan umurnya lebih muda, umurnya 9 tahun dan 7 > tahun. Bahkan bila perlu kita nikahi sekaligus. > > *Apakah tidak khawatir akan menjadi persoalan nantinya?* > > Siapa yang mempersoalkan, toh Agama tidak melarang. Yang dilarang syariat > itu, memiliki istri lebih dari empat. Yang saya targetkan itukan empat > istri, tidak lebih. > > *Anda menikah lagi. Isteri anda tidak mempersoalkan? * > > Tidak ada masalah > > *Pernikahan anda dengan anak di bawah umur, bagaimana isteri anda menanggapi > ini ?* > > Saya katakan, tidak mempersoalkan > > *Sebelumnya sempat cemburu ?* > > Isteri saya menyetujuinya tidak ada tekanan, dan asal anda tahu, justru > istri justru dia yang mencarikan calon-calon istri saya itu. > > *Anda tidak khawatir dianggap melanggar hukum bila menikahi wanita secara > sekaligus seperti yang anda niatkan itu, apalagi di bawah umur?* > > Aku tidak tahu. Sudah dulu yah terimakasih. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]