*** Yes, it's about Jewish people, which stay in Israel, they have occupied Palestinian land, this is the same with the Dutch occupied Indonesia in the past time, or English occupied America, and they got their freedom with a fight. China occupation on Tibet is different. China doesn't colonize Tibet, They want Tibet become one with China, but Tibet have their own culture which is different with China. so they want to stay alone to let their culture is built by them self base on the religion which has been a faith since their predecessor while China doesn't believe a thought of religion because they are communist.
America can occupy Iraq was caused by their tricky to United Nations that they have an obligation to get nuke weapon where in fact that have no proof that the weapon was exist. But, we can't say that America want to colonize Iraq, because they have planned to leave Iraq on 2011. So it's different with Israeli, they occupied Palestine by chasing and colonize the people. So we should distinguish a country which has no right to occupy a land with the people who has stay for along period of time (Israeli) with the country which just want to let them be a one nation as China want to Tibet. Indonesia also has been mentioned as colonialist when Indonesia annexation Timor Timur after Portuguese left that country. Also Indonesia has been mentioned as colonialist when Aceh peoples fell that they has been treated unfair in economical. Btw, the question is, Is Indonesia a colonialist country same as Israel or America ? Salam --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hahahaha, Jewish people atau Israelites? Kalau Jewish people, di AS, > Belanda dan banyak negara juga dijumpai. Kalau Israelite (warga negara > Israel) ya lain lagi. Yang tidak dapat dipecaya itu Jewish people atau > warga negara Israel? Kalau Jewish people berarti nabi Musa, Sulaman, > dan Daud juga sama. Mereka adalah jewish people. Kalau soal jajah > menjajah, bagaimana dengan AS yang menjajah Irak? Mengapa anggota DPR > itu tidak memprotes kehadiran mereka di sini? Bagaimana dengan China > yang menjajah Tibet, mengapa anggota DPR diam saja. > KM > > ----Original Message---- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 08/12/2008 11:25 > To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> > Subj: [ppiindia] Re: Anggota DPR Protes Keras Kehadiran Israel di > Kemayoran > > *** Both America and Israel are colonizer, where in the free world > right now there is no country like them, we are living in the world > that democracy is a fundamental for every nation to build their > country. So this is not about their stuff, as we use in every day > life, but they are still continuing the bad habit of west country's > done on the old fashion to colonize a free country, like Iraq and > Palestine. > > Second that Indonesia has no diplomatic contact with Israel, cause > by their act as colonize nation, where in our constitution say that we > are against with colonialism, so why there were some Israeli ppl could > enter to Indonesia. I think no one of Indonesian ppl hate Jewish but > they know that Jewish words can't be trust. > > salam, > > > --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, carla annamarie kneefel > <carla_annamarie17@> wrote: > > > > so in that case those DPR ppl, also should demand to ban indonesian > ppl to use these stuff: > > 1. Most of the Windows NT and XP operating systems were developed > by Microsoft-Israel. > > 2. The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel. > Both the Pentium-4 microprocessor and the Centrino processor were > entirely designed, developed, and produced in Israel. > > 3. The Pentium microprocessor in your computer was most likely made > in Israel. > > 4. Voice mail technology was developed in Israel. > > 5. Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside > the US in Israel. > > 6. The technology for the AOL Instant Messenger ICQ was developed > in 1996 by four young Israelis. > >  > > > > btw, i think many of jewish haters maybe dont know that maybe they > are working in companies or using stuff that invented/produced/made by > jewish. > > > > so cut the crap...and for once show some intellect for > heaven's sake... > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Kartono Mohamad <kmjp47@> > > To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; news > Trans TV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; kampus tiga > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; HMI Kahmi Pro Network > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Forum Kompas > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; pantau > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; jurnalisme > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 3:09:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Anggota DPR Protes Keras Kehadiran Israel di > Kemayoran > > > > Tetapi akan diam kalau AS ikut, meski AS nyata2 menjajah Irak. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Satrio Arismunandar <satrioarismunandar@> > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:45:12 > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; news Trans > TV<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; kampus > tiga<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; HMI Kahmi Pro > Network<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Forum > Kompas<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > pantau<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > jurnalisme<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > ppiindia<ppiindia@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [ppiindia] Anggota DPR Protes Keras Kehadiran Israel di > Kemayoran > > > > > > > > Pameran Dagang Internasional > > Anggota DPR Protes Keras Kehadiran Israel > > > > Jakarta, 5 Desember 2008 13:34 > > Tujuh anggota DPR RI mengajukan protes keras terhadap kehadiran > Israel dalam pameran dagang "International Automation Technology And > Materials Handling" di Kemayoran, Jakarta, pada 3 hingga 6 Desember > 2008. > > > > Anggota Komisi I DPR RI dari Fraksi Partai Keadilan Sejahtera (FPKS) > Al Muzzammil Yusuf, dalam keterangan melalui SMS di Jakarta, Jumat, > menyebutkan, ketujuh anggota DPR RI yang memprotes tersebut > masing-masing Al Muzzammil Yusuf dan Suripto (FPKS), Abdillah Toha dan > Azlaini Agus (Fraksi PAN), Joeslin Nasution (Fraksi Partai Golkar), > Nursyahbani Katjasungkana (FKB), dan Ahmad Fauzi (Fraksi Partai > Demokrat). > > > > Dalam pernyataannya, mereka meminta pihak Departemen Luar Negeri, > Departemen Perindustrian, dan Departemen Hukum dan HAM (yang membawahi > imigrasi) perlu memberi penjelasan terbuka ke publik dan DPR mengenai > mengapa perusahaan Israel bisa ikut serta dalam pameran dagang > tersebut. > > > > Pemerintah, menurut Al Muzzammil, tidak konsisten dengan amanat > Pembukaan UUD 1945 yang anti-penjajahan dan pada saat yang sama > pemerintah juga tidak konsisten dengan dukungannya pada perjuangan > kemerdekaan Palestina. > > > > Padahal, katanya, Israel adalah simbol arogansi atas masyarakat > dunia yang dibuktikan antara lain bahwa saat ini tak kurang dari 40 > anggota parlemen, termasuk ketua Parlemen Palestina Abd. Aziz Dweik, > dan menteri kabinet Palestina masih dipenjarakan oleh Israel, bantuan > kemanusiaan tidak boleh masuk Israel, perampasan rumah warga masih > berlangsung, terowongan di bawah Masjid Al Aqsha masih dibangun, dan > Israel merupakan pelanggar terbesar resolusi PBB. > > > > "Maka kami mengingatkan pemerintah Indonesia untuk tidak gegabah > dalam membuka hubungan dengan Israel dalam bentuk apapun," kata Al > Muzzammil yang juga anggota Kaukus Palestina DPR RI itu. > > > > Sebab, lanjutnya, hal itu bisa menciderai perasaan umat Islam > Indonesia dan bangsa Indonesia secara umum yang anti penjajahan dan > anti pelanggaran HAM. > > > > Karena itu, ketujuh anggota DPR RI itu meminta pemerintah untuk > segera "mengusir" perusahaan Israel tersebut. 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