when in this construction : p = u*2^k+1

u is exaktly one its a fermat number

if k is exaktly 1 its a mersenne number

for fermat numbers the only loop number is 1 and all other modular
connections
will fall to it.

For Mersenne numbers we can say there is only one level of non loop numbers

hope this explains more...

J

2008/1/8, Jesse Homonnay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Thx for this enlightning answer...
>
> Something new?
>
> Perhaphs... have to study the paper first...
>
> Anyway i thought the idea of this pattern was interesting since its
> intuitive and have connections to nonlinear dynamical systems...
>
> But mainly because most fundamental results come together in an ( how to
> express? ) coherent environment...
>
> Many thx
>
> Jesse
>
> 2008/1/7, Max Alekseyev < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Jesse,
> >
> > Quadratic map x -> x^2 over finite fields was studied in the paper
> >
> > "On the iteration of certain quadratic maps  over GF(p)" by T.Vasiga
> > and J.Shallit
> > http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/629149.html
> >
> > Have you got anything new, compared to what is described in this paper?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Max
> >
> > On Jan 7, 2008 11:00 AM, Jesse Homonnay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > I understand:
> > >
> > > X|n+1 = X|n^2 mod p
> > >
> > > Write the pattern connecting each X|n from the set {1,2,...,p-1} then
> > the
> > > loops of the set i.e those numbers
> > > connecting a ring will be described by p=u*2^k+1 where u is the number
> > of
> > > elements in all rings of this structure.
> > >
> > > example: 13=3*2^2+1 and 1 connects itself obviously and 3 connects 9
> > wich
> > > reconnects to 3 since
> > > 3^2mod13=9 and 9^2mod13=3 etc...
> > >
> > > hope this clarifies a little...
> > >
> > > 2008/1/7, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Homonnay wrote:
> > > > > 2002 i found studying at university of Lund Sweden
> > > > >
> > > > > X^2=mod N
> > > >
> > > > This modular equivalence is incomplete.
> > > >
> > > > > where N chosen as prime written out as a whole generative pattern
> > > > actually
> > > > > describes the prime numbers as a generative dynamical system
> > pattern.
> > > >
> > > > I can't put any meaning to this. If you mean that when N is a prime,
> > > > then X^2 has certain properties as a polynomial in the ring of
> > integers
> > > > modulo N, then certainly that's true. It doesn't help much in
> > finding
> > > > primes.
> > > >
> > > > > Mersenne primes are a simple symmetry case ( as well as Fermat
> > primes )
> > > > >
> > > > > All general identities proven hereby.
> > > >
> > > > This statement seems, erm, somewhat inflated.
> > > >
> > > > > I think this is important
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure you do. However, I don't think you have managed to
> > > > convey what it is to anyone yet.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > --
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