Tim, I disagree. Property and casualty insurers are not covered entities so
are not directly regulated by HIPAA. 45 C.F.R. �160.103 provides, under the
definition of "Health Plan," that 

"(2) Health plan excludes:

(i)     Any policy, plan, or program to the extent that it provides, or pays
for the cost of, excepted benefits that are listed in section 2791(c)(1) of
the PHS Act, 42 U.S.C. 300gg-91(c)(1) . . ."

"Excepted benefits" listed in 42 U.S.C. �300gg-91(c)(1) include accident,
disability income and liability insurance; supplemental liability,
automobile med-pay, and workers' compensation insurance; credit-only
insurance, and coverage for on-site medical clinics. 

However, it is entirely possible that property or casualty insurers could be
plan sponsors of group health plans offered to their employees, so they
might have some indirect HIPAA duties they have to perform to ensure their
GHPs are in compliance with HIPAA.


Judith A. Langer, Attorney
HIPAA Project Director
Privacy Official
Cobalt Corporation


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To: Tinsley, Carolyn; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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However, I believe that the privacy provisions relating to PHI would still
apply in the event of a PIP claim, even if the transaction requirements do
not apply!  Thus an auto insurance carrier providing PIP coverage would
still be a covered entity, and have to comply with the Privacy and Security
regs, right on down to the Agent level.  Or so I have understood.

If anyone has a specific statement from DHHS or OCR to the contrary, I would
love to see it.

Tim McGuinness, Ph.D.
HIPAA Help Now Inc.  (www.hipaahelpnow.com)
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:57 PM
To: 'Tomak-Maurer, Tonya (Chicago)'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Medical Claims for a Property Insurance Organization


Auto & Property policies are specifically excluded under HIPAA, even for
medical claims. State laws would still govern any confidentiality of health
information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomak-Maurer, Tonya (Chicago)
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:52 PM
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Subject: Medical Claims for a Property Insurance Organization


Anyone put thought into HIPAA and how it effects a property or car insurance
organization who processes and pays for medical claims under their policies?


Thanks,
Tonya

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