Pam,
I do not see a problem with patients (or their family members) entering 
IIHI into the web-based system you describe, provided the CE who is 
managing the system secures the data in accordance with HIPAA.  The 
disclosing party in this case (the patient) is not a CE, so they can enter 
the data without worrying about the transaction rule OR about getting auth. 
from family members to disclose their info.

I'm not really seeing a problem with the CE (owner/manager of the data 
collection system) being in possession of this data, even if he/she has no 
treatment relationship with some or all of the patients who are entering 
it.  The data would, after all, be obtained freely and legally from the 
patient.  Again, the CE would have to safeguard that IIHI and treat it just 
like his/her patient's PHI, obey all rules regarding subsequent disclosure, 
etc.

Maybe I'm just being dense today, but I don't see anything "wrong" here.

Best regards,
Chris

Christopher J. Feahr, OD
Optiserv Consulting
[For the vision care industry]
Santa Rosa, CA
707-579-4984
707-529-2268 (cell/pager)
http://VisionDataStandard.org
http://Optiserv

At 09:31 AM 9/6/2002 -0500, Lawson, Pam wrote:


>We are currently looking at a product that would allow patients to enter 
>demographic, past history, insurance information, etc via a web 
>form.  They would setup their own password/id and be responsible for 
>updating the information.  Whenever they were treated at one of our 
>facilities or a physician associated/on staff with one of our facilities, 
>that information could be viewed/verified by the caregiver.  Before 
>setting up the account, the patient would have to click on a "I agree" 
>button attached to the privacy notice/disclaimer.  I think just this part 
>of the setup is OK, but the kicker is that individuals would be allowed to 
>setup information on multiple users, including spouses, parents, etc and I 
>just don't think this will fly under HIPAA since that information would be 
>widely available without their knowledge or consent.  Is anyone else 
>allowing patients to create these repositories?  Do you allow them to 
>enter information on multiple individuals, including other adults?  And, 
>how are you handling the HIPAA issues?  Thanks Pam
>
>Pamela K. Lawson, RHIA
>Information Security Coordinator
>St. John Health System
>Tulsa OK
>918-744-2316
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>pager 918-643-2725
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