Bob
On 14/11/02 at , Bob Smith <> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 01:49 AM, Shangara Singh wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of either
> > stepping up to it or getting a CIS for my 1290.
>
> I've spent the past year fighting with a CIS on a 1270 and 1280. The
> basic operation of the bulk ink system is beautiful. Profiling issues
> will drive you nuts. After reading a few zillion posts on various
> Epson lists, I don't think I'm alone. I'm running Enhanced Generations
> (or G4) inks but the problems seem present with most all of the third
> party pigments. the biggest problem is not metamerism, but simply that
> the Epson driver is not designed to handle this type of ink and there
> seems to me to be no reasonable third party driver or RIP solutions
> that have both excellent dithering and sufficient ink controls to solve
> the problems. I'd love to be corrected here.
we have no problems profiling the 1290 with Lyson Fotonics. With the
Epson driver. On suitable stock.
>
> After many, many profiling attempts using just about every trick in the
> book, I've yet to come up with profiles that work for as wide a variety
> of images as what I could do using original Epson inks with either the
> Epson driver or PressReady. With G4 inks, the CIS and my custom
> profiles; certain images will print beautifully. Others look terrible.
strange, those inks
> Which is which varies with the particular profiling method used. The
> problem almost always lies in two areas: the way the Epson driver uses
> black ink, and your lack of ability to even semi linearize the
> printer's handling of each ink before profiling.
you could use the printers own adjustments [basic though they are]
> The result is that at
> least one area in a common test print like the one Pixl uses or one
> from PhotoDisk will show an unwanted color shift or posterization. If
> the images you print never have one of these areas, you'll think the
> printer/inks are wonderful.
that's why we have that imnage, it's very telling.
> If they do you'll hate 'em and either be
> editing/printing images constantly or building profiles over and over.
>
> The images that seem to give me the most grief are ones with subtle,
> dark, near neutral transitions...the shadows of those beautiful legs on
> the Pixl image
tes, the magenta stripe strikes again I guess.
> or the darker leather on the binocular case in the
> PhotoDisk image. I use a low key portrait of a black man as my test
> image from hell for a new profile.
>
> While my experience is specifically with G4 inks, I've seen similar
> experiences posted (many times) from users of just about every third
> party ink out there. I have no experience yet with the 2100 but from
> what I've read it really sounds like Epson is on the right track with
> what they've done in developing the printers that use the Ultrachrome
> inks.
apart from the bronzing on photo type stocks ;-(
> I'm not wild about going back to buying those high priced Epson
> inks in individual carts, but if it works, it would be worth it. The
> 2100 may not be the ultimate desktop inkjet, but for now, it sounds
> like the most versatile printer out there and won't require hours and
> hours to tame.
how about a Canon 9000?
if you want more life you can even put Fotonic inks in it.
Regards
NeilB
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