Hi Neil,
From: Neil Barstow

>Anyway, he informed me that I should ALWAYS be calibrating monitor to
>D50, as per our viewing booths etc. D50 as well.
It would be interestig to know who said that.
Today I spoke to Hanspeter Harpf at color-solutions [basICColor makers]
and he tells me he does not tell a client what it must be, but always
asks for an opinion, testing both. 

I'm confused a bit now....he definately said ALWAYS D50...he was demostrating new 
basICColour at Eizo stand on Thursday.
Anyway, no problem..we shall stick with D65 I suppose.

I think you were right
you should trust your eyes IMO. test it out. Remember that luminance is
very important too.

Ok, on this point he said that we should try and attain a luminance of about 30% less 
than the max. luminance of a screen.
Is THIS correct? If so, does this mean setting the 'brightness' off said screen at 70? 
or is it more complicated than this...(I'm sure it is!)
Has anyone actually come up with any standard guidlines on luminance settings? Can we 
choose this setting using basICC? 

With basICColor Display and their special grey card [NOT with incident
eyeone head] you can actually read the lightbox and set the screen to
exactly the same spectrally measured white. 

Yes - I was shown this at Photokina.....We may need an extra long USB cable to reach 
into the viewing area in the office!

[Of course you cannot expect to truly match screen and proof in the same
field of view - your brain can't deal with it].

My brain can't deal with loads of things...so totally understand...

. We are also about to shift over to GMG
>COLOUR PROOF software next week, proofing files to ISO COATED and/ or
>DP10 standards.
gmg, eh?
I got trained on that a few months back by gmg.
nice kit, shame about it not running on Mac.

Yes, Should be in next week...Running off Dual Xeon PC (arggh..PC), anyway. we are 
really looking forward to seeing this 4-d colour transformation in action.
The non-ICC conversion may be a whole topic of discussion in itself...but as a 
quicky....
I was initially very concerned that the separations made in GMG might prove 
problematic when opened back up in Photoshop. On opening the file (with no ICC 
embedded profile), how does anyone actually VIEW this beautiful seperation? Obviously 
PS needs to assign (USE) a profile (even when you do not assign) to show the info on 
screen. Will this be inaccurate to view? According to (pretty grumpy) staff at GMG 
stand last week;  If we proof to ISO Coated in GMG and then assign ISOCoated.icc in PS 
afterwards all will be fine and well. I wonder if you can clarify this? How does a 
non-ICC application, link back into an icc app, or is it that only the CONVERSION is 
non-icc, meaning that afterwards we are fine to go back to icc?


a reflected D50 just does not match a monitor D50 to my eyes, nor to
those of ANYONE I've ever done the test with.

I will stick with D65 then....

Best Regards
Neil Barstow

Many Thanks as always,  Graeme

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