-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Alex Turner wrote: > On Dec 21, 2007 7:56 PM, Ross Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: >>>> Unfortunately, the comment by Chris McDonough mentioned in the latter >>>> doesn't seem to be accessible any more. I'd love to read it. >>> It said: >>> >>> """ >>> I don't think Plone is "bad" because it uses the GPL. I do think it's >>> a pain in the balls to have to ask authors of various GPL things if >>> they're willing to relicense ZPL or other BSD-type license in order to >>> be able to incorporate their software into CMF or Zope (as required by >>> the ZC contributor's agreement in order to check it into either of >>> those projects). It just puts up a big enough impediment to sharing >>> code that the codebases don't intermingle much. >>> What's gauche about using the GPL is that at least by default, the >>> Plone guys don't need to ask the Zope guys if they can ship their >>> software. They get the benefit (or pain ;-) of shipping it all without >>> any extra work. But the Zope guys need to go track down the copyright >>> owners of various bits of Plone code and get all of their permissions >>> to ship their software in CMF or Zope via a relicense. That's just >>> hurts collaboration badly. It's anti-sharing which I think is >>> practically just gauche. >>> """ >> Thanks for digging that up, its a really good point to have in the mix >> here. >> > > au contraire - it is the ZPL which is anti-sharing in my estimation. You do > not have to contribute changes back to a project which you extend in a BSD > style license, so you can take a BSD style licensed product, extend it, and > sell it without giving a single thing back to the original author of the > original system except a credit note in the copyright statement. > > BSD and ZPL is share and do what you like > GPL is share and share alike > > Thats the core philosophy difference. If you like others to share too, then > use GPL or LGPL (possibly AGPL actually, GPL doesn't gaurentee much of > anything for application service providers as I've found out, which is > probably most people using Plone etc.), if you want to give your code away > then use BSD/ZPL, if you want changes back, then use AGPL. And if you think > it wont happen, it already did. Microsoft took the BSD Kerberos code and > re-purposed it into Windows, changed the protocol slightly and pissed off > many people.
Rehashing GPL vs ZPL is off topic here, because the ZPL is the *mandated* license for any code contributed into the zope.org repository: that choice is not subject to debate. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHbVOS+gerLs4ltQ4RAkKMAKC4Y6jhdzV+hvWmg2fTKYWBhhRsLwCfbyd9 6oeMLkDGQCN1ucjkPzow/A8= =uNGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Product-Developers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/product-developers
