XBMC.... if my 8 year old can get it working with a bit of help from an 11 year 
old I'm sure any Foxpro geek can do it.... But then for $35 it's the ideal 
techy geek gadget


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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Lew Schwartz
Sent: 10 January 2013 21:33
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Cheapo media player.

Still need a piece to play mp3's, 4's etc ... stuff on HD.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Adam Buckland <adam.buckl...@eurohill.com> 
wrote:
> And back to the Raspberry Pi.. or should that be .... Mornington 
> Crescent*
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> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj
> Sent: 10 January 2013 20:29
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: Cheapo media player.
>
> Why not buy a cheap PC with hdmi video built into the motherboard, and use 
> your HDTV as its monitor?  You could connect the PC to your router for 
> internet access.  You could then change between your hdtv being a pc monitor 
> or a tv by using your hdtv remote to navigate the menu to select/change input 
> sources.
>
> I'm running an SyncMaster P2770HD as a monitor to my desktop computer
> and have selected HDMI    --    PC DVI from the menu as the input source
> and it works just like any regular monitor would.  Other input sources I
> could select from the SyncMaster P2770HD menu are PC   --   DVI, TV,
> DVI, AV, and Component.
>
> If the video on the PC is low resolution, you will probably want to buy a 
> graphics card that support 1080P resolution to get the most from your HDTV.  
> I'm running a GeForce 9800 GT video card in my desktop computer which give me 
> up to 1920 x 1080 (16 : 9) resolution and two hdmi output
> ports.  Since the SyncMaster P2770HD didn't have an pc hdmi   --  hdmi
> option, I used a simple dvi to hdmi adaptor to connect the dvi end of the 
> cable to the video card, and I'm running sound off the pc using regular 
> speakers and subwaffer.  lol  this worked best for me; because, the built in 
> speakers/sound on the SyncMaster P2770HD isn't that good.
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11246_7-6481048-1.html
>
> http://www.gamefront.com/how-to-hook-your-pc-to-your-lcd-for-big-scree
> n-action/
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
> On 01/10/2013 12:42 PM, Ken Dibble wrote:
>> Thanks Ted. I appreciate that you're trying to help. I'm sorry if I'm 
>> being unclear.
>>
>>> > Maybe the next option is to use the TV as a dumb audio/visual
>>> terminal to
>>> > run input from my computer. If that's an option, then here's my
>>> situation:
>>> >
>>>
>>> I don't understand how you get to that conclusion.
>>>
>>> If that's what you want, get an HDMI cable to hook your computer up 
>>> to your TV. Use your TV remote to select the alternate input. Use 
>>> the computer interface to choose what video you watch.
>>
>> My TV would even take a VGA cable. I don't have HDMI output on my 
>> computer nor do I have a dual-output video card. In any case, I don't 
>> want to run a cable; it would have to be run through the floor and 
>> under the basement ceiling in order to avoid crossing a doorway.
>>
>>> Warning: if you're running a Microsoft OS, it will likely want to 
>>> restrict how you use your video output with something like HDCP ( 
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protecti
>>> o
>>> n)
>>> so,
>>> as always, I'd advise against running Microsoft products.
>>>
>>> It just sounds like a lot of new ways to annoy yourself. (Which, 
>>> truth to tell, all of these solutions are. #1 son used to install 
>>> high-end solutions for all of this; they meet all of your criteria 
>>> except very notably the 'cheapo' part.)
>>>
>>> Back to your conclusion: I would suggest what you need is a small 
>>> low-power computer/settopbox hooked up to your TV via HDMI, 
>>> connecting to the internet via WiFi (I don't understand how you can 
>>> say you don't have a home network, but you do have WiFi. Perhaps you 
>>> don't have a WIRED home
>>> network?) and controlled via a dedicated remote control and/or an 
>>> interface you can access from your computer or smartphone.
>>
>> I use a router to share the internet connection among multiple 
>> computers; some are wired, some are wireless. But all I'm doing is 
>> sharing internet; I don't have a "network" that allows the computers 
>> to talk to each other.
>>
>> In any case, the TV is not "networkable" in that sense: it can access 
>> a wireless internet connection but doesn't have any capability to 
>> talk to another computer. I realize--too late--that SONY makes TVs 
>> that have that sort of capability but this is not one of them.
>>
>>> As for the related cross-talk question of how you get audio to your 
>>> entertainment center, there's a strong possibility that your TV has 
>>> an Audio Out connection (analog or digital) that you run to your 
>>> amp/entertainment center. You use the TV as the UI and the 
>>> aforementioned remote to route sound to the speakers.
>>
>> Yeah, I wasn't even concerned about that. It's got a 1/8 inch jack 
>> for that.
>>
>>> My solution above does all of this, reading all the music (FLAC, 
>>> WAV,
>>> MP3
>>> and OGG) from a Samba share on the home Linux box.
>>
>> The specific thing I really want to do is this:
>>
>> View and fully control a Flash-enabled web browser on the TV screen.
>> Then I can go to any number of free (as in beer) on-demand TV sites 
>> (Hulu is the most well-known but not the only one) and watch a wider 
>> array of programs than are available on Netflix or Hulu+.
>>
>> (With the kind of computer connection I'm thinking of, I could also 
>> use VLC to play various avi/mpg/divx files that are not subject to 
>> DRM; Usenet still exists and is a very valuable reasource. ;-) But 
>> I'm not likely to use that option as much, so that's why I'm focused 
>> on the web browser thing.)
>>
>> Yes, my TV will provide access to free YouTube via an app--if I want 
>> to deal with using left/right/up/down keys on a TV remote to choose 
>> the letters of the search term, one at a time. Yes, I have apps for 
>> Netflix or Hulu+ and lots of other paid services on the TV. Yes, the 
>> TV has a built-in web browser that does NOT have Flash and cannot be 
>> controlled via any kind of wireless device other than the clumsy TV 
>> remote, which isn't adequate.
>>
>> Apple devices do not support Flash.
>>
>> Mobile android devices apparently do not support Flash.
>>
>> That leaves Windows or Linux. My home computer is Windows XP but I 
>> don't think DRM issues enter into viewing a web browser on a TV screen.
>>
>> I am concerned about screen resolution; I have a feeling that 
>> outputting my customary 22" monitor's resolution to a 46" TV is going 
>> to result in grainy images, so there needs to be some compensatory 
>> factor for that.
>>
>> Hence I need a wireless connection that will put what I am seeing on 
>> my computer screen and hearing on my computer speakers on my TV, at a 
>> suitable resolution for a very large screen.
>>
>> If you or your son have a solution that will do that, I'm interested.
>> If I can do that, then I don't need a media server per se.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ken Dibble
>> www.stic-cil.org
>>
>>
>>
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