In this application when a page submits a request, it calls a procedure. I matched up the request logs with the phantom orders and checked the IP addresses making the requests. They were msnbot! After duplicating the phantom loads I did a search on Bing and found the URL for the procedure that adds the load. You can not log into the system from the URL, but authentication is checked after the blank record is appended. You also have to call the URL with a parameter with the robot does but Bing does not. There is a robot.txt in each folder but it appears that msnbot does not respect that. Looking at the requests, it appears that msnbot calls the url anywhere from two to over 100 times right in a row! They just happen to catch these urls immediately after the request.

The solution will include up front authentication for each request as well as insert instead of append & gather.

Thanks for all of your ideas & help!

Until next time!  ;^)


Jeff

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Jeff Johnson
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On 02/22/2013 07:20 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
I have a very strange problem. It is an application that uses append and gather. June of last year their system started creating orders with blank information in them. Mainly dispatcher. They call them phantom orders. There is no rhyme or reason for them to appear, but 40% of their overall orders since then. They wrote a routine to zero out the numbers and delete them but it is annoying because they show up and then the purge routine removes them and the users see this. There are about 100 users.

The only thing that I found that is unusual is that the order table was indexed on every field with the invoice field descending. Could this cause problems when adding new records?

Thanks in advance,



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