I am very interested in both politics and the success of Southwest Fox, however, I have opened the emails several times just to find political discussions with "Southwest Fox" as the subject.
I hope this practice stops. Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc. Crescent Lake Plaza 5459 Elizabeth Lake Rd. Waterford, MI 48327 (248) 683-4182 www.erw.com weswil...@erw.com ________________________________ From: "profox-requ...@leafe.com" <profox-requ...@leafe.com> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: ProFox Digest, Vol 122, Issue 34 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send ProFox mailing list submissions to profox@leafe.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to profox-requ...@leafe.com You can reach the person managing the list at profox-ow...@leafe.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ProFox digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox (Ricardo Ar?oz) 2. RE: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox (Virgil Bierschwale) 3. RE: Help save Southwest Fox (Rick Schummer) 4. RE: Help save Southwest Fox (Rick Schummer) 5. Re: Help save Southwest Fox (MB Software Solutions, LLC) 6. Re: [NF] Google is Your Lover! (Alan Bourke) 7. RE: [NF] Google is Your Lover! (Kurt Wendt) 8. RE: [NF] Google is Your Lover! (Kurt Wendt) 9. Re: [NF] Google is Your Lover! (MB Software Solutions, LLC) 10. Dan Bricklin, CTO, AlphaAnywhere (Ted Roche) 11. RE: [NF] Google is Your Lover! (Dave Crozier) 12. RE: Dan Bricklin, CTO, AlphaAnywhere (Dave Crozier) 13. VFP9, Google Calendar & Windows 8 Oh My! (Jeff Johnson) 14. Re: VFP9, Google Calendar & Windows 8 Oh My! (Ted Roche) El 27/06/13 00:39, Nicholas Geti escribió: > My solution is to let business do what business does. The world is too > complex for a government or any entity to set rules as to how it > should work. I completely agree! Governments should let the drug dealing business alone. We don't need rules! If you want to protect your property just buy a gun. We don't need a police force to enforce rules we don't need! The world is too complex. (said a brain impaired moron) I believe we can both agree that history is repeating itself as we are currently living through the second gilded age, and most likely going to see the second greatest depression simply because people do not realize how bad it is out there. As you will notice by this picture, unemployment actually is nearly 25% here in America and it is in fact diverging from the official U3 and U6 Numbers as more and more of us are not being counted. I do NOT expect the world to stay fixed. I simply recognize that people like you and me are, or were earning in the top 10% of all wage categories. Management Occupations 108,570 Legal Occupations 98,570 Computer and Mathematical Occupations 80,180 Architecture and Engineering Occupations 79,000 Healthcare Practitioners and Technical Occupations 73,540 Business and Financial Operations Occupations 69,550 Life, Physical, and Social Science Occupations 68,360 Arts, Design, Entertainment, Sports, and Media Occupations 54,490 Education, Training, and Library Occupations 51,210 Construction and Extraction Occupations 44,960 Community and Social Service Occupations 44,240 Installation, Maintenance, and Repair Occupations 43,870 Protective Service Occupations 43,050 Sales and Related Occupations 37,990 Production Occupations 34,500 Office and Administrative Support Occupations 34,410 Transportation and Material Moving Occupations 33,590 Healthcare Support Occupations 27,780 Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations 25,670 Personal Care and Service Occupations 24,550 Farming, Fishing, and Forestry Occupations 24,230 Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations 21,380 As we continue to send our legal, our computer, our engineering, our healthcare, our financial, our radioligists jobs offshore seeking cheaper, and cheaper rates, where will you find the income to pay your mortgage or support your family? And if you currently are self employed, most likely you are making a living developing software for large and small businesses. When they can no longer afford your services because their client base has been devastated, where will you get your money from? No disrespect, but I can tell that you have not thought this through. If we keep on this path, you will be glad to open the door at walmart for the few remaining people that still have work. That is a future that I refuse to endorse, and I work to get the ostrich's' of our world to understand that it is not going to turn out how they think it will turn out. -----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:14 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox Again, I don't see the business problem that needs fixing other than population growth going faster than the economy can absorb them. We have plenty of rules about business conduct and don't need any more. All issues can be placed under the moral code called "cheating". If you think it is bad now you should read the history of business cheating a hundred years ago. I have a book about the running of the early railroads and opening of the west including the ill treatment of the Indians. It was really bad. And I watched a video show on TV about the Rockefellers and how the old man cheated his way to taking over the oil industry and drove competitors into the poor house. I disagree with all of your statements below. You cannot expect the world to stay fixed just so you can have the same income all your life. You need to change and grow with it. Learn new things. That's life. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virgil Bierschwale" < <mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> vbier...@gmail.com> To: "'ProFox Email List'" < <mailto:profox@leafe.com> profox@leafe.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:55 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox > Actually, if you do not educate yourself, and discuss how to fix the > problem, you will get more and more corzine's, madoff's, etc simply > because > businesses have proved that they will not regulate themselves. > > > > I don't think I can attach a pdf file here, so I will attempt to show you > what ten years has shown me, and believe me, back in 2003 when ya'll were > helping me to rewrite my resume, I had no clue about any of this stuff. > > > > I simply have done my due diligence, and I have found it to be a very > productive expenditure of my time. > > > > To keep it simple, we have 6 billion people in our world. > > Our whole world is comprised of people. > > Without business we could survive quite well via barter and the exchange > of > our skills. > > > > > > > > Now, to give our children, and our fellow citizens a decent life, I > believe > that we all agree that the American dream is founded on the principle that > we will find a way to provide the balance between the business communities > need for profit and the people's right to a life that should be better and > richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to > ability or achievement regardless of social class or circumstances of > birth. > > > > Now the people cannot maintain this balance because they do not have the > financial resources to go head to head with the business community should > they not work to develop and maintain this balance. > > > > And the business community has the financial resources to totally > devastate > the people of our world, which as in the example I showed earlier today, > they are doing in a game of musical countries, and the people can do > nothing > about it. > > > > Which is why we need a government that understands that it is up to them > to > develop and maintain this balance. > > > > We, the people, have been neglect in our duty and we have elected people > to > run government like a business rather than people that understand that it > is > up to them to develop and maintain this balance. > > > > We, the people, have also been neglect in our duty because we have allowed > our government to allow the very media that should be putting their finger > on the scale above to maintain this balance. > > > > > > > > Yeah, I know it is heavy. > > Took me nearly ten years to understand it all > > > > And no, I do not have all the solutions. > > > > I just know that if we leave the business community to do as it pleases, > it > will destroy your future, just as it did mine, and trust me, I didn't feel > this way until I saw the boot heels of capitalism. > > > > By the way, birth's is not the issue. > > The more people we have, the more that they can buy, the more that our > businesses can sell. > > > > As long as they make more than what it costs to live in their community, > that is. > > > > And the current path we are on is making it so that they make less than > what > it costs to live. > > > > Case in point, in 2002 I made $2,700 per week as a consultant. > > In 2012 I made $8,001.00 as an unemployed person, and that ended in march > 2012 > > > > In 2002 I could afford anything anybody had for sale. > > In 2012 I couldn't afford a piece of used toilet paper. > > > > And I'm pretty sure the majority of people on this group have seen similar > declines in their cash flow. > > _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: <mailto:ProFox@leafe.com> ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: <http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox> http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: <http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/574CFED440CB4A48B22906A05519A06F@dua l> http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/574CFED440CB4A48B22906A05519A06F@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/related multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html image/gif image/jpeg --- >> I think the days of conducting a small conference in the physical world >> should be replaced by something like a video conference over internet... :)<< You may be right, or you may be wrong. I don't know. Sounds easy, right? But it turns out not so much. I refer you to the points made by Ed and the networking of the conference. >From an attendee perspective he is absolutely spot on. Also, we have done the business model cost wise and it does not work for the Fox Community. I've talked to several video production companies including the one that does PyCon every year (friend and former FoxPro guy). The math does not add up for us. It may work perfectly for other conferences, but we have a shrinking customer base and a very small one at that. Sorry. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 07:55 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Help save Southwest Fox I think the days of conducting a small conference in the physical world should be replaced by something like a video conference over internet... :) On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Rick Schummer < raschum...@whitelightcomputing.com> wrote: > Putting on a conference is a risky endeavor. Conference centers > require a guaranteed minimum income to block the dates of a > conference; for a conference like Southwest Fox and Southwest > Xbase++, that minimum is in the tens of thousands of > dollars. > -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10 (Linux kernel 2.6.39.3) /( _ )\ http://sites.google.com/site/changmw ^ ^ May the Force and farces be with you! --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] Sorry about the delay response Mike, I've been off the hook busy. Last year we had a 70/30 split between Fox and Xbase++, but it was out first Xbase++ conference and getting the word out to the Xbase++ community turns out to be extraordinarily challenging (no publication, few sparsely visited forums). Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 04:21 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Help save Southwest Fox Rick, How many of the folks last year were there for the xBase++ side of things? Just curious on the percentage of Fox vs. xBase++ attendees. Wishing you success in your continued endeavors especially with regards to this conference! --Mike On 6/24/2013 4:11 PM, Rick Schummer wrote: > Profoxers, > > > > Putting on a conference is a risky endeavor. Conference centers require a > guaranteed minimum income to block the dates > of a conference; for a conference like Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++, > that minimum is in the tens of thousands of > dollars. > > > > Last week we had half the number of people who were registered at this time > last year, and last year's number took a big > leap of faith on our part to carry on. See, our break-even point is about 75 > people, and according to our contract with > the hotel, we have until July 2 to cancel or we're on the hook for our > guaranteed minimum whether there's a conference > or not. > > > > Southwest Fox is one of the highlights of the year for the three of us. A ton > of planning and work goes into organizing > it, but we are happy to do it because we feel it's an important way to keep > our community going. We're realistic enough > to know that it won't go on forever and each year could be the last. So, was > 2012 the last year? You can help us make > that decision. If you were thinking about going this year, vote to continue > the conference by registering now. If you > know others thinking of attending, share this message with them. > > > > If we do end up cancelling, everyone who registered will get their money back > in full, so you can't lose out. (Just > don't make your flight reservation right way.) > > > > The FoxShow #77 (http://www.thefoxshow.com/) features an interview with us > discussing this and other SWFox-related > issues, so be sure to check it out. Andrew MacNeill also has a blog post > about this. > > > > Rick, Doug, and Tamar > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html >[excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1372350953.1973.yahoomail...@web141001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
