Wow!  I guess that aspect should put hair back on my head!

Do I assume correctly that after the form design is complete one can remove
the data environment without causing issues?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Kurt Wendt <kurt_we...@globetax.com> wrote:

> OK - here's one more insight.
>
> I discovered Visual Design via the Data Env. some years ago - and I "fell
> in love" with working that way.
>
> So - if you open a New Form. Then, open the Data Env. as I mentioned. Then
> you Add a Table to the DE. Now you can do visual design. Simply click on a
> field in the Table and drag it onto your Form. Boom - a Text field And a
> Label are created. Now - select a Bunch of fields in the Table in the DE -
> and drag them onto the form and BOOM - you have a Grid!
>
> Fun - Right???
>
> Regards,
> Kurt Wendt
> Consultant
>
>
> Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> www.GlobeTax.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Joe
> Yoder
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:30 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Cc: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same record pointer
> in a table
>
> Bingo - that was it!  I had tried to figure out how to work with the data
> environment setting but never thought about just deleting the entire
> thing.  I'll want to spend some time learning about how the data
> environment can work to my advantage rather than causing additional hair
> loss!
>
> Thanks to all - Joe
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Kurt Wendt <kurt_we...@globetax.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Joe - I believe that's your problem - re: " data environment on each
> > form shows only the one table."
> >
> > If you open the form, right click on an Empty space on the form, then
> > select Data Environment. At that point the graphical version of the DE
> > comes up - and you should be able to simply select that Table (the
> > graphical representation of that Table) - and just hit Delete. That
> > should be all there is too it. Then - you would manually open the file
> > in like the Init or Load of the form.  I think that May solve your
> problem...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kurt Wendt
> > Consultant
> >
> >
> > Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> > www.GlobeTax.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joe Yoder
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:25 PM
> > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same record
> > pointer in a table
> >
> > The data environment on each form shows only the one table in the system.
> > Apparently this value gets created when the form is created.  I have
> > not figured out a way to delete it.
> >
> > I have the simple demo created and could zip it up to send to whoever
> > is willing to look at it but I am wondering how it would work to share
> > the folder on Google drive with a link embedded in an Email.  Does
> > anyone have experience or an opinion about such an approach? - Joe
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Kurt Wendt <kurt_we...@globetax.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Joe - I completely agree with you - that it shouldn't be necessary.
> > >
> > > As another WAG - do you have anything in a Data Environment on
> > > either the 1st form - or the 2nd form that is called?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kurt Wendt
> > > Consultant
> > >
> > >
> > > Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> > > www.GlobeTax.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Joe Yoder
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 7:48 AM
> > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same record
> > > pointer in a table
> > >
> > > Darren and Rafael
> > > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114211264208955698806?prsrc=4>I was
> > > thinking of passing the record number between forms but understood
> > > that it should not be necessary.  I plan to build a very simple demo
> > > app from scratch.  If that exercise doesn't shake out the problem I
> > > will zip it up and let you have a look.
> > >
> > > Thanks - Joe
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:44 AM, <rcopq...@fibertel.com.ar> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I may be a  little late on this thread but this is how I do it:
> > > > I set a form property in form1 called nRec which captures the
> > > > recno() you are positioned in:
> > > > thisform.nRec = recno('yourcursor') you set a new property in that
> > > > form called nRec_1 When you call form2:
> > > > do form2 with thisform.nRec to thisform.nRec_1
> > > >
> > > > In the init event of form2:
> > > > lparameters pnRec
> > > > (you also set a property called nRec or whatever you like in
> > > > form2, to receive the number of the record in form1) thisform.nRec
> > > > = pnRec in the activate event of form2:
> > > > select thecursorlocate for recno() = thisform.nRec In this way,
> > > > form2 is positioned in the same record you are positioned in
> > > > form1
> > > > (I assume you examine the record in a grid here)
> > > >
> > > > in the afterrowcolchange event of the grid thisform.nRec =
> > > > recno('thecursor')
> > > >
> > > > If you were to move the recordpointer in form2, or even if you
> > > > weren't, its unload event should have the following code:
> > > >
> > > > return thisform.nRec
> > > > Now, back to form1In its activate event do this:
> > > > select yourcursorlocate for recno() = thisform.nRec_1 So now, the
> > > > record pointer is in the same record that form2 is in.
> > > > In your particular case you might want to add some control
> > > > property to avoid error in the activate event of form1, such as:
> > > > if (condition)
> > > >     select yourcursor    locate for recno() = thisform.nRec_1
> > > > endif
> > > > Needless to say that both forms should have private data sessions
> > > > Hope it helps Rafael Copquin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     El Martes, 1 de marzo, 2016 3:30:05, Darren
> > > > <fox...@ozemail.com.au>
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Joe if you want it zip it all up and send it to me I'll have a
> > > > look see for you.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of Joe Yoder
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 4:33 PM
> > > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > > Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same record
> > > > pointer in a table
> > > >
> > > > I use a test button on the main form to set the record pointer to 25.
> > > > As soon as I step into either of the Do Form lines the recno()
> > > > changes back to a red 1 without the watch firing. The debugger
> > > > shows that it is still in the click method of the command button
> > > > that did
> > the call.
> > > >
> > > > There must be something I as a dabbler am doing differently than
> > > > experienced developers - what can it be?
> > > >
> > > > I have changed everything except the data file I am trying to
> > > > display and the behavior persists.  Perhaps tomorrow I will use a
> > > > different data file as well.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all for the input so far!
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Darren <fox...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Put the SET STEP immediately before the do form.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then on the toolbar click on the symbol with the arrow going
> > > > > into the brackets. Do that repeatedly and you'll go one line at a
> time.
> > > > > You'll get the idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
> > > > > Of Joe Yoder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 1:15 PM
> > > > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same
> > > > > record pointer in a table
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to your instructions I have done that and see that the
> > > > > pointer changes as soon as the "do form" line executes.  I
> > > > > haven't figured out how to single step in the called form code.
> > > > > - Joe
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Darren <fox...@ozemail.com.au>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > One way ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SET STEP ON in the code that calls the 2nd form.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go into the breakpoints setup.  (Little hand symbol) Add a
> > > > > > breakpoint
> > > > > > - Type = "Break when expression has changed"
> > > > > > In the expression put in RECNO ("<ALIAS>") The go back the
> > > > > > command window and type in RESUME.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Something like that should get you going.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Joe Yoder
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 11:38 AM
> > > > > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same
> > > > > > record pointer in a table
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm afraid I have forgotten the little I knew about setpoints
> > > > > > and stepping in the debugger.  I guess I need to read up on
> > > > > > that. - Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Joe Yoder <j...@wheypower.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the idea Kurt but that was one of the first
> > > > > > > things I
> > > > > checked.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have now determined that any form I call from the main
> > > > > > > form will always start at record 1 even if the record
> > > > > > > pointer is at a different value just before the call.  If
> > > > > > > the called form changes the record pointer the pointer value
> > > > > > > will persist after the form closes.  I have added a button
> > > > > > > to simply browse the table from the main form.  That action
> > > > > > > respects the value of the pointer on entry and leaves the
> > > > > > > pointer
> > > > > > in the proper place on exit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There must be something about the forms I am using that
> > > > > > > causes this problem.  I've been looking at the scx files and
> > > > > > > see that there is a some information about a cursor there.
> > > > > > > Is there a setting I need to change to get the behaviour I
> > > > > > > need?  (I have done a test project where there is only one
> > > > > > > table and the behavior
> > > > > > > continues.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for any ideas,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Kurt Wendt
> > > > > > > <kurt_we...@globetax.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Just a WAG - but, what is your DataSession property value
> > > > > > >> for the Form? I think it should be set to "1-Default Data
> Session".
> > > > > > >> That may be your problem if it says Private!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > >> Kurt Wendt
> > > > > > >> Consultant
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> > > > > > >> www.GlobeTax.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
> > > > > > >> Behalf Of Joe Yoder
> > > > > > >> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:22 AM
> > > > > > >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the same
> > > > > > >> record pointer in a table
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks Kurt - your understanding is correct.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I have pinned down the problem to the detail form.  When I
> > > > > > >> call it something changes the record pointer to the first
> > record.
> > > > > > >> When the calling form gets control back the record pointer
> > > > > > >> is where the detail
> > > > > > form left it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I have not been able to find any reason for this but wonder
> > > > > > >> if it is related to the fact that the form was first
> > > > > > >> created using the form
> > > > > > wizard.
> > > > > > >> I had grief with changing the table alias with that form so
> > > > > > >> I opened a new form and copied the complete layout.  That
> > > > > > >> took care of table name but perhaps there is an "unwanted
> feature"
> > > > > > >> still in place from its former life as a wizard created form.
> > > > > > >> I'd rather not do the tedious work of regenerating the form
> > > > > > >> - any
> > > ideas?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thank you,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Joe
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Kurt Wendt
> > > > > > >> <kurt_we...@globetax.com>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Fernando - that's just the opposite of what Joe wants. He
> > > > > > >> > indeed wants Both forms to be looking at the same records
> > > > > > >> > - such that if he brings up the 2nd form - and Changes to
> > > > > > >> > a different record - then upon returning back to 1st form
> > > > > > >> > - it should now be looking at the Same record that Form2
> > > > > > >> > was pointing
> > > > to!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Regards,
> > > > > > >> > Kurt Wendt
> > > > > > >> > Consultant
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> > > > > > >> > www.GlobeTax.com
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
> > > > > > >> > Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
> > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:16 AM
> > > > > > >> > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: How to allow multiple forms to update the
> > > > > > >> > same record pointer in a table
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Hello joe:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > You may need to use private session en form 2 or on both,
> > > > > > >> > so record pointers do not interfere between forms.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
> > > > > multipart/alternative
> > > > > > >> >  text/plain (text body -- kept)  text/html
> > > > > > >> > ---
> > > > > > >> >
[excessive quoting removed by server]

_______________________________________________
Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com
Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox
OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech
Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox
This message: 
http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CABQeDnWyBEikmYfwGVto5CsBT=59v02q5b7szrcmkzk--sn...@mail.gmail.com
** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the 
author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added 
to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

Reply via email to