Agreed, it doesn't happen that often. In this case, I'm trying to reduce the use of some older customized menus by updating what I need into my standard menus as well as folding in some forms from a separate but related application.
-- rk -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VFP menu documentation utility? I really almos do not use menus. I mean, the main menu of the application was made using the gui 15 years ago and we have added 1 or 2 new options in the meantime :) Menus do not change frequently in general in any application, but, of course, it depends on the application. If your menus change frequently, then I suggest using an objetized menu. I remember a project that did that, but do not remember the name of if. I see at least two options that may work in your case: 1) Using "OOP menu project" (that's the name, found in VFPx), on which you can change options by programming 2) Using FoxBin2Prg for merging options and procedures between different menus and regenerating the binary, so you can edit it again anytime using the IDE A 3rd option could be manually editing/adding differences between menus using the VFP IDE, but it is costly. At the beginning I sugested FoxBin2Prg because you mention "comparing", and there is not visual tool (Menu-editor style) available AFAIK. There are many options available, depending on what to you need. Regards.- 2016-06-16 19:49 GMT+02:00 Richard Kaye <[email protected]>: > Ah. So you're not essentially using the GUI for menu design? I agree that > if you take the MNX out of the equation it becomes a much simpler problem, > especially if the tools create nice clean PRGs as opposed to the MNA/MPR > style code. > > Thanks again for the suggestion and engaging in the conversation. : -) > > -- > > rk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Fernando D. Bozzo > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: VFP menu documentation utility? > > Well, I think that you can see it by yourself. Downloading and making a > quick test is faster than the time required to write an email. > > We have 2 independent/distributed teams working with VFP 9 projects with > more than 1.5 millon lines of code between forms, classlibs, menus and prgs > on a DVCS system (PlasticSCM) sharing, branching and merging code since mid > 2014, and I can say that FoxBin2Prg was the only tool that not only allow > merging, but do it showing PRG-style code to the Developer, which is what > we know better. No XML (excect in table data and reports), no "rare" text. > > Forms, Classlibs and Menus are converted to PRG-style, and in 2+ years we > didn't have any problems when merging and regenerating operative binaries. > > I think that having at least 2 VFPx projects oriented to git ("bin2text" > from Lutz Sheffler and "git utils" from Mike Potjer) and even FoxUnit using > it as the bin*text conversor gives some confidence about it. > > But, again, the only way to know if it's for you is doing a test with a > copy of your files. > > > > > 2016-06-16 19:01 GMT+02:00 Richard Kaye <[email protected]>: > > > Good points about the modify & merge, etc. Having said that, VFP menu > > metadata is even odder than SCX/VCXs so I'm not quite sure if the ability > > to regenerate the DBF (MNX) would create a functional menu. But just like > > using Rich Schumer's HackCX tool, it could come in handy using your very > > fine tools. > > > > Just to make it (hopefully) a little more clear, let's say I have 2 or > > more menus and they are mostly the same. My idea was to be able to look > at > > each BAR and see how many PADs are on each bar, perhaps even compare the > > commands or procedure code so I know which items need to be added to or > > deprecated from my new master menu. > > > > -- > > > > rk > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Fernando D. Bozzo > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:13 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: VFP menu documentation utility? > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > I may do not understand well what you need exactly. > > > > With scctextx you can only "compare" (readonly), while with foxbin2prg > you > > can "compare, modify the text or merge and regenerate the binary", which > > scctextx can't do. > > > > But, if you preffer to do it with programming, then that's ok. You > started > > asking for a way of comparing options, and this is one way to do it with > > merging capabilities, like in git. > > > > > > Regards.- > > > > > > 2016-06-16 16:52 GMT+02:00 Richard Kaye <[email protected]>: > > > > > Thanks, Fernando. I pretty much have something similar going with > > SCCTEXTX > > > and my diffing tool of choice. I'm sure your utils are a bit more > elegant > > > but I'm in get it done mode at the moment. : - ) > > > > > > What I was thinking of writing was a bit more menu specific using > things > > > like PRMPAD() and CNTPAD() etc. Dump stuff into arrays, parse them out > > and > > > comp the results. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > rk > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > > Fernando D. Bozzo > > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:18 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: VFP menu documentation utility? > > > > > > If you want to compare menus, then you can use FoxBin2Prg to convert > them > > > to Text (.MN2) and compare using a good tool like Meld, Beyond Compare, > > > WinMerge or any other. > > > > > > With FoxBin2Prg there is a utility included called FB2P_DIFF.exe, which > > > allows you to just run it and drag & drop your menus (MNX) to the input > > > filename boxes to do a quick compare using WinMerge Portable (also > > > included) without the need to setup anything else. Inside FB2P_DIFF.exe > > you > > > can configure other DIFF utils (it have Beyond Compare v2 preconfigured > > > too, in case you have it installed) > > > > > > You can download from VFPx: > > > https://vfpx.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=FoxBin2prg > > > > > > > > > Try it and comment here about if was useful to you, > > > > > > Best Regards.- > > > > > > > > > 2016-06-16 16:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Kaye <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > I have some similar menus and I'm looking for a way to tell which > menu > > > > options might be unique to one or the other so I can build a single > > > > consolidated menu. > > > > > > > > I've already forged ahead by diffing MPR/MNAs. It's a bit noisy as > VFP > > > > assigns sys(2015) values to each proc so there are a lot of > irrelevant > > > > differences to wade through. But I'm impatient... : - ) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > rk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > > > Fernando D. Bozzo > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:40 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: VFP menu documentation utility? > > > > > > > > Hi Richard: > > > > > > > > You want to compare VFP menus to what exactly? to older versions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016-06-16 15:05 GMT+02:00 Richard Kaye <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > I want to compare some VFP menus; bars, pads, etc. I know there > are a > > > > > number of native functions I can string together to do this but > > before > > > I > > > > > reinvent the wheel I thought I'd check with the collective wisdom > to > > > see > > > > if > > > > > anyone here has already built my utility for me. : - ) > > > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > rk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > > > > multipart/alternative > > > > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > > > > text/html > > > > > --- > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/sn1pr10mb0928c9515459635dcfe8a924d2...@sn1pr10mb0928.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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