Ok, now I see. In oop terms, you've broken encapsulation. The init of each *component* object should only address the initialization requirements of the object itself and not insofar as its initialization requires the presence or assistance of other container member objects. The top level container - which is really the big-kahuna we're constructing can contain code that manipulates it's components, ie the stuff you do in the cmdedit.init really belongs in the container.init because only in the container init can you be sure that all the components are present and assembled. -Lew
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: controls/ objects collections Lew Schwartz said "This doesn't entirely make sense to me...There's really no way for a single object to have more than 1 'context'... " Lew I think that's right - I thought the button.init code was executing in the context of the superclass but I think I was misled by the controlcount property: what seems to be happening is that the code is firing before the other objects which it refers to have been instantiated (this harks back to a recent thread about controls being bound to form properties) See my separate posting for sample code Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ********************************************************************** [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.