HI Tracy, Those were the days. Files came from a mf and those guys lived in a different universe. I ended up writing a proc. which examined the complete file and rejected for the slighted non compliance with my guidelines. They quickly learned. btw there is NO Belgian version of cvs files. I ended up using ~
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 4:46 PM Frank Cazabon <frank.caza...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have never seen a standard when it comes to CSV. I have stopped using > Excel and use Libre Office and when I try to save a file as CSV it > prompts for Character set, field delimiter and String delimiter. > > Would the issue go away if you specified a tab as your field delimiter > and no string delimiter? Or do your customers have no control over the > production of the files? > > Frank. > > Frank Cazabon > > On 16/04/2021 10:33 am, Richard Kaye wrote: > > Hey Ted! It's snowing here in lovely MA right now... Happy April! > > > > I agree but it's not so much the users getting creative with the > required formats (well, generally speaking...). The issue is what when the > Belgian user exports the data from Excel, it's going to default to semis > and no quotes and then our current import routine will choke. Ultimately I > think I'm going to have to build a pre-import parsing method. > > > > -- > > > > rk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ProfoxTech <profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com> On Behalf Of Ted Roche > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:26 AM > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > > Subject: Re: Variations in CSV settings by region > > > > We did a lot of this in the 90s and aughts, with customers as far away > as Louisiana and Indiana ;) and no one agrees on what CSV "standard" means. > > You could go the "AI" way of performing a FileToStr() and trying to > parse out what the creator intended, but I think that might be overkill, > and dates are ambiguous, even on a good day. "3/8/20" means... ? > > > > Our customers were in a similar situation: their customers were shipping > them price lists and inventory lists in every format known. When they would > explain they needed the format to be stable, the next month's sheets would > show up with new columns added (and sometimes hidden!) and others > re-arranged. We ended up leaving it to our customers to use Excel to import > what they were sent, and reformat it as needed to a standard format, and > exporting THAT as a strict CSV to import into the system. It was too much > work to reinvent the wheel already built into Excel. > > > > "Be liberal in what you accept, but strict in what you emit" -- Postel's > Law, roughly. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle) > > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 9:42 AM Richard Kaye <rk...@invaluable.com> > wrote: > > > >> Throwing this one out to the collective wisdom. We're doing a lot with > >> CSV import/experts these days with our web-based WWC application and > >> are running into issues with regionalization. Here in the US, a > >> "standard" CSV means commas between data elements and double quotes > around text elements. > >> But in Belgium, the delimiter is the semi-colon and text elements are > >> not wrapped in double quotes. As best I can tell, Excel determines > >> what format to use by the OS settings and not its own application > >> settings. This makes importing from a CSV a bit of a dance for our > >> Belgian clients as they have to change their regional settings, import > >> the file that was received in US format, and then change their > >> settings back. And, of course, changing region affects date and > >> currency formats. For those of you working with clients from multiple > >> locations where the standards may be different, what strategies do you > use to deal with this? > >> > >> TIA > >> > >> -- > >> > >> rk > >> > >> > >> > >> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative > >> text/plain (text body -- kept) > >> text/html > >> --- > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/CAPqLOByWF9jwMhSQtYTB-P=cb+tr8vx+u2q_vsyed1nor5z...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
