Yeah - I'm sure Craig's Class was a lot easier to use than what they have implemented here... ________________________________ From: ProFox <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Kaye <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 3:40 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: A Difficult Problem & SAD AI Truth...
+1, Paul 😊 Related sidenote to the topic of all this machine AIing; when I was still doing desktop stuff and using grids I found Craig Boyd's gridesxtras.vcx class to be brilliant. -- rk From: ProfoxTech <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul H. Tarver Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: A Difficult Problem & SAD AI Truth... I'm definitely getting old. Back in my day all we had for AI was the manual, Hentzenwerke books or FoxPro Advisor magazine. However, in those ancient days, AI stood for "Awesome Insights" from a lot of the folks who are still monkeying around with Foxpro. :) Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 11:39 AM To: mailto:[email protected] Subject: Re: A Difficult Problem & SAD AI Truth... Hey Ed! I had not heard of Perplexity before, maybe I should give it a shot. And, yeah - even Claude has sessions, and I can go into an older session for a followup. So, yup - I get it... So, in regards to your comment about Training the Model. In one of the very first communications I had with Claude - this was my question: When I upload files to you - are they at all stored on the web? I just want to know how secure things are before I give you more complicated VFP forms that may have proprietary company information within those forms. And this was his Reply: That's a great question and an important security consideration. When you upload files to me in this chat interface, the files are processed as part of our conversation. They are not publicly stored or accessible on the web in a way that others could find or access them. The files are only used to help me assist you in the current conversation. However, I should clarify a few important points about data handling: (1) The files and our conversation are processed on Anthropic's servers to enable me to analyze and respond to your requests. (2) Anthropic (the company that created me) does have data retention policies that govern how long conversation data might be stored on their systems, primarily for improving their services. (3) While the files aren't "published" on the web, they are transmitted to Anthropic's systems during our conversation. For sensitive or proprietary company information, you might want to consider: Removing or anonymizing sensitive portions of code before sharing Using placeholder names for proprietary elements Sharing only representative samples rather than complete production code If you have specific concerns about confidentiality, you might want to check Anthropic's privacy policy or consider using their API service which might offer different data handling options depending on your agreement with them. Would you like me to help you understand how you might sanitize your VFP forms before sharing them, or would you prefer to proceed with sharing a form now? ****** So, yeah - item (2) had a reference to "primarily for improving their services". But, it's not really clear - I guess I figured improving meant learning - but, I now know it does NOT mean learning. Got it. ________________________________________ From: ProFox <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Ed Leafe <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 12:19 PM To: ProFox Mailing List <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: A Difficult Problem & SAD AI Truth... On May 29, 2025, at 08:46, Kurt Wendt <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > And THAT is the Crux of why I am making this post. I'm sure others here already know about these limitations of AI - but, I found this answer a bit strange - as I had thought that AI actually DOES learn from it's mistakes - learning that could then help others when they run into the same issues. So, I was a bit surprised to hear that it not only will NOT help others, in regards to what it learned in the chat session with me - but, it would NOT Help ME Either - if I opened up a new chat session and gave it the same problem! What you're describing is training the model, and that happens before the model can be used. Running queries through the model doesn't change it, it just affects the output. I haven't used Claude, but I am a big fan of Perplexity (https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/wWlVCQWN26Hkyz60S9CxfGKV9t?domain=perplexity.ai), which saves your queries as sessions that you can go back to at a later date. 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