Absolutely. When you see your psychiatrist to check out your judgment, also have him check out your reasoning. Your believe that the original war with Iraq, and subsequent civil struggle for power between waring secretarian tribal fashion over the vacuum left when Saddam was removed as leader of Iraq, which the Bush Administration now calls "the war", or the violence in response to the effort of the US to impose it will on the Iraqi people through military force, which the Bush Administration also calls "the war", resulted in a net saving of life is preposterous and indefeasible.
When the time comes that an evaluation can be performed to accurately measure the cost of the Iraq war in terms of loss of human life, loss of limb, loss of hope, loss of financial resources, loss of property, loss of a generation or two of mentally healthy Iraqi citizens, it will be staggering. The cost due to psychological damage/harm to the Iraqi people, and all the children, will manifest itself for generations to come. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: > Well some people say we shouldn't have killed so many > Iraqis even though the net lives we saved are in the > hundreds of thousands compared to how many would have > died under Saddam. > > So, it stands to reason we shouldn't be using computer > modeling to save the Earth because such computer > modeling damages the Earth. > > Understand now? > > > > > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> In everything there is both good and evil, pros and >> cons, advantages and >> disadvantages, and good judgment is required to >> arrive at the correct >> decision in achieving proper balance between these >> opposites. Have you >> had your judgment check lately? <g> >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> Michael Madigan wrote: >> >>> Of course using computers adds to CO2 emmissions. >>> They should do the calculations by hand to save >>> >> the >> >>> Earth. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" >>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Computers are being used to help better >>>> >> understand >> >>>> the causes and >>>> effects of Global Warming, and the role that >>>> >> human >> >>>> interferance with the >>>> planets envrionmental system causes or >>>> >> contributes >> >>>> to global warming. >>>> >>>> #-------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute >>>> Power* >>>> >>>> With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel >>>> >> on >> >>>> Climate Change >>>> <http://www.ipcc.ch/> 4th Assessment Report, even >>>> skeptics are >>>> acknowledging that global warming is heating up. >>>> >>>> According to the 4th Assessment Report >>>> >>>> >>>> > <http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/docs/WG1AR4_SPM_PlenaryApproved.pdf>, > >>> >>> >>>> we >>>> can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice >>>> reduction, warmer >>>> winters, and the like, all thanks to >>>> >> human-derived >> >>>> greenhouse gases that >>>> are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007 >>>> >> report >> >>>> will be presented in >>>> four phases during the year, with the first phase >>>> focusing on physical >>>> evidence of global change >>>> >>>> "We are now seeing, not merely predicting, >>>> >> effects >> >>>> of greenhouse warming >>>> on a scale and in ways that were not observable >>>> before," said Gabriele >>>> Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke >>>> University's Nicholas >>>> School of the Environment and Earth Sciences >>>> <http://www.nicholas.duke.edu/>, who also >>>> co-authored a summary of the >>>> report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating >>>> >> lead >> >>>> author of the IPCC >>>> report's chapter on "Understanding and >>>> >> Attributing >> >>>> Climate Change," goes >>>> on to say that "We've studied improved >>>> >> observations >> >>>> from land, sea and >>>> space, as well as better temperature >>>> >> reconstructions >> >>>> covering the last >>>> 1,000 years. Understanding the observations is >>>> really what this all is >>>> about. For instance, looking at the patterns of >>>> change in 20th-century >>>> temperatures, we can now distinguish between >>>> >> changes >> >>>> caused by >>>> greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability >>>> >> in >> >>>> solar radiation and >>>> major volcanic eruptions." >>>> >>>> As you might expect all of this obervation and >>>> modeling requires >>>> computing power -- and lots of it. To that end, >>>> >> the >> >>>> National Oceanic and >>>> Atmospheric Administration <http://www.noaa.gov/> >>>> (NOAA) has activated >>>> its newest weather and climate supercomputers, >>>> increasing the >>>> computational might used for climate and weather >>>> forecasts by 320 >>>> percent. The IBM machines process 14 trillion >>>> calculations per second at >>>> maximum performance and ingest more than 240 >>>> >> million >> >>>> global observations >>>> daily. These computers also will process data >>>> >> from >> >>>> Constellation >>>> Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and >>>> Climate >>>> <http://www.cosmic.ucar.edu/> (COSMIC) >>>> >> satellites, a >> >>>> series of six >>>> satellites launched in 2006. >>>> >>>> "Better physics, better models, better data, and >>>> faster and more >>>> powerful supercomputing are the foundation for >>>> making better weather and >>>> climate forecasts," said Conrad C. Lautenbacher, >>>> undersecretary of >>>> commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA >>>> administrator." >>>> >>>> "One of the most fascinating things is that we >>>> >> see >> >>>> that changes have >>>> already happened or are happening now in more >>>> climate variables than >>>> just temperature," says Hegerl. "For instance, >>>> >> there >> >>>> have been observed >>>> changes in ocean temperatures, global rainfall >>>> >> and >> >>>> in circulation of the >>>> atmosphere. We now are beginning to understand >>>> >> that >> >>>> these changes occur >>>> at least partly in response to anthropogenic >>>> influences on climate. This >>>> allows us to better evaluate model simulations, >>>> which do simulate >>>> aspects of these changes, although not as >>>> successfully as they simulate >>>> changes in temperature." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > http://www.ddj.com/blog/portal/archives/2007/02/global_warming.html > >>> >>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/3yma5v >>>> >>>> #------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> LelandJ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com >>>> Subscription Maintenance: >>>> http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox >>>> OT-free version of this list: >>>> http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech >>>> ** All postings, unless explicitly stated >>>> >> otherwise, >> >>>> are the opinions of the author, and do not >>>> constitute legal or medical advice. 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