That was a bad time.  The customer kept on telling me
that I needed to fix my program.  I kept on telling
him, "why is it my problem, tell your other vendor to
FIX HIS PROGRAM!




--- mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is Microsoft's fault for having an O/S that does
> not properly keep
> processes running in their own threads!  heh-heh.
> 
> Gil
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Michael Madigan
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Network problems
> >
> >
> > I had a similar problem with my program freezing
> after
> > the client loaded a different custom program on
> all
> > the machines.
> >
> > So... is it my fault that my program is
> incompatible
> > with the other program.... or is it their fault
> for
> > adding a program that doesn't coexist with mine?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Problem is that it ends up I
> > > > have to do
> > > > something as the program does not work so it
> looks
> > > like my fault.
> > >
> > > It just does not seem fair, does it?  In order
> to
> > > prove your innocence you
> > > end up identifying the real problem, and get no
> real
> > > thanks for it from
> > > anyone who really gives a rat's ass about how
> much
> > > you busted your tail for
> > > somebody else's failing.  In fact, you could end
> up
> > > being resented by the
> > > very folks that ought to be thanking you for the
> > > help.  I know that path far
> > > too well.
> > >
> > > I have been known to take a position with
> various
> > > "ignorant" vendors on
> > > different matters of paying me for my time to
> > > diagnose a problem I was
> > > blamed for if it turned out to be the blaming
> > > vendor's problem.  I have
> > > never been taken up on it (Uh, I can't authorize
> > > that kind of money...".
> > > But since these issues were usually impacting
> > > recurring license fee based
> > > clients I would take on the project anyway (out
> of
> > > the goodness of my cold,
> > > hard heart <g>), prove my point, embarrass the
> > > vendor(s) involved in the
> > > cause of the problem, and look like a hero in
> the
> > > eyes of my client (who ya'
> > > gonna trust!?!).  These issues have involved
> poor
> > > performance on a network
> > > (software vendor was caching all Firebird tables
> > > from a Server to each local
> > > machine upon app load, therefore the problem was
> > > with the client's
> > > network!), to VFP app running poorly (some PCs
> were
> > > plugged into an Ethernet
> > > HUB, not switch, that was servicing an Exchange
> > > Server), to the inability to
> > > completely bridge two subnets together between
> > > separate locations (vendor
> > > forgot to add a routing statement in one of two
> > > routers at each end of a T1
> > > connection, therefore my fault.  Once I
> discovered
> > > the problem they claimed
> > > I must have changed the setting.  Assholes, I
> did
> > > not have the Router
> > > passwords until AFTER I agreed to track the
> problem
> > > down), intermittent
> > > failure to reach online Internet remote support
> app
> > > (one of two DNS Servers
> > > used by the vendor had an invalid target IP
> Address,
> > > took me 3 full days to
> > > track that one down.  No "thank you" from this
> > > international vendor, of
> > > course, although it fixed a national problem
> that
> > > plagued them for a few
> > > prior years), <Ctrl>-C caused Linux system port
> > > shutdown whereas previous
> > > UNIX platform had no such problem (I was
> pooh-poohed
> > > re: the <Ctrl>-C
> > > observation, then later told "we never supported
> > > <Ctrl>-C to kill
> > > processes".  Who the hell had been teaching that
> to
> > > their End Users for over
> > > 20 years then?), etc., etc., etc....
> > >
> > > As you can guess, I have plenty more stories to
> > > share with my past 23 years
> > > of experience in this industry, and some of them
> > > were from my earliest years
> > > when I was a true Green Horn.  All seem to have
> a
> > > similar pattern.
> > > Something goes wrong, the vendor points to what
> they
> > > think is the weakest
> > > target (me, I guess because I work out my home
> > > office instead of some glitzy
> > > palace), I end up proving irrefutably their
> > > culpability (not so much my
> > > innocence), let them try to explain it away to
> the
> > > client they had told "Gil
> > > Hale is at fault on this...", and then let them
> try
> > > to go forward after
> > > losing their credibility.  Funny things is there
> > > have been times these same
> > > vendors come back with later issues and tried to
> lay
> > > things off on others
> > > (to include me), only to once again have their
> pants
> > > pulled down in public,
> > > and humiliated for their ignorance and obvious
> focus
> > > on not stepping up to
> > > their responsibilities.
> > >
> > > Then again, who is the greater fool, I wonder? 
> I
> > > guess one could argue it
> > > is me, as I end up correcting problems for
> others
> > > where I have no direct or
> > > indirect responsibility.  But, with a recurring
> > > license fee based business
> > > there are times I just feel compelled to "earn
> my
> > > keep" over and beyond the
> > > call of duty.  I end up with a very loyal client
> > > base.  But, on the other
> > > hand, several unappreciative and undeserving
> vendors
> > > end up benefiting from
> > > my focus on making certain my clients get what
> they
> > > are paying for.  I guess
> > > when I end up drawing my last breath I will be
> able
> > > to look back and know I
> > > tried to do the right things for the rights
> reasons,
> > > and hope my reward is
> > > to not get too hot a place in hell (for the
> record,
> > > I am more of a "return
> > > to carbon cycle" kind of person as opposed to a
> > > "heaven and hell" person)
> > > <g>.
> > >
> > > Gil
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of
> > > Allen
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:12 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Network problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all the replies on this network
> problem.
> > > I will see if I can get
> 
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