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> No, what I was saying (before this digression) was that Paul was not
> talking about doctrine. So even if he was a Pope his words could be
> questioned (even by a Catholic) just like the words of any other human
> being. It was an answer to the fanaticism I sensed in someone's post
> about this letter from Paul.

Just back from Thanksgiving vacation, anyway, I must be the fanatic because I 
regard Paul's writings in this sense as canonical (I think the R. Catholic 
church does too) and being canonical represents the word of God.  But 
discussion is pointless if you believe the tenets of 'higher criticism' or that 
part of the Bible (as recognized by the R. Catholic church or protestants) can 
be freely disregarded as opinion.  OBTW, Higher Criticism has largely fallen by 
the wayside these days.


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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2007 6:43 PM, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Stephen Russell wrote:
>>> On Nov 20, 2007 5:12 PM, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> And yet, it is only opinion and not Catholic doctrine. Isn't it?
>>> I think it is.
>>>
>> Why? He was no Pope, but a martyr, his opinion would not be binding.
> 
> Paul's writings were late 40s and early 50s.  Peter the first
> Pope/Papa was installed in 60 or 61?  Paul was killed in 61?  Peter
> was killed in 64?
> 
> When it comes to doctrine, that wasn't put together till 300 to 500.
> 
>>> <http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11567b.htm>
>>>
>>> This is a good read on the various interpretations between Catholic
>>> and Protestant views on or about Paul's writings.
>>>
>>> Now religion is all an opinion so what does it matter?
>>>
>> To a Catholic there is a difference between opinion and what the Pope
>> says when talking about doctrine. Anyway, we should ask Pete who'll
>> probably know better due to his Jesuit upbringing.
> 
> I agree.  Are you saying that any Pope in the past 100+years has
> restated Paul's messages in papal writings or transcripts?
> 





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