At 08:24 AM 2/21/2008 -0600, Ed Leafe wrote:
>On Feb 21, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
>
> >>        Care to specify as to what is "dogma" in science? Or do you 
> honestly
> >> think that "1+1=2" is a belief?
> >
> > I thought you were the one that said nothing can be proven in science.
>
>         That's not science, that's math. And there are mathematical axioms
>that are not proven, but used as the basis for all other calculations.
>That is as close as you get to "belief" in the natural world.

Hmmm... I thought Mathematics was classified as a "science". Are you saying 
that's not true?

>         If you are comfortable accepting 1+1=2, then the rest of math and
>science makes sense. If you are not comfortable accepting that, then
>it is doubtful that anything else will make sense.
>
>         So my point is that my assumptions are stuff like 1+1=2. Your
>assumptions are, shall we say, quite a bit more elaborate.

I'm not sure how we got to this point. You started off by objecting (I 
think) to my use of the term "dogma" when I used it in a sentence relating 
to science. I think I showed that "scientific dogma" is an appropriate phrase.

I didn't realize you actually wanted me to answer if I believed 1+1=2. So, 
OK, yes, I believe 1+1=2

-Charlie



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