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************************************************* Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Helio Wakasugui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Helio Wakasugui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OT]For many evangelicals, it will be the end of the world if > Obama wins > To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com> > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 9:07 PM > Are you a "Left Behind" series fan by any chance? > > HW > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Larry Miller > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Not really... we just go into freedom fighter mode. > > > > Larry Miller > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Helio Wakasugui > > To: ProFox Email List > > Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 01:42:08 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: [OT]For many evangelicals, it will be the end > of the world if > > Obama wins > > > > For many evangelicals, it will be the end of the world > if Obama wins > > > http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2008/1028/1225061111621.html > > > > > > [image: Daniel Lopez, his wife Diana, James Krause, > Matthew Lopez and James > > Vorja outside Focus on the Family's > > headquarters]Daniel > > Lopez, his wife Diana, James Krause, Matthew Lopez and > James Vorja outside > > Focus on the Family's headquarters > > > > The evangelical movement is fearful on many fronts, > *Mark > > Hennessy*discovers in Colorado Springs > > > > QUIETLY SPOKEN, religiously and politically > conservative, and living in the > > heartland of evangelical Christianity in the US, > Daniel Lopez pondered the > > end of time that could come if Barack Obama becomes > president. > > > > "When I think of it, it brings to mind the > prophecies that the Bible tells > > us about," said Lopez, sitting in the shade > outside Focus on the Family's > > headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colorado. > > > > "On the one hand, it is exciting for us as > conservatives because we can > > actually see what God prophesied coming about; but on > the other hand, it is > > frustrating to see somebody become president who is a > blatant liar." > > > > Lopez and his family moved three years ago from > California to Colorado > > Springs, which has over the past couple of decades > become home to thousands > > of evangelical Christians, and more than 100 of their > churches. > > > > The most influential religious operation in the city > is not, however, a > > church as such, but the sprawling Focus on the Family > complex established > > by > > James Dobson, one of the US's most influential > figures. > > > > Each year, he broadcasts to 200 million religious > conservatives at home and > > abroad, and he reigns supreme in Colorado Springs > since pastor Ted Haggard > > fell from grace after he was found to have solicited a > male prostitute for > > sex and drugs. > > > > The Haggard experience, and general suspicions that > the press is > > everlastingly liberal, mean the evangelicals are not > keen on journalists, > > even if they are polite about it. "No sir, > I'm afraid there is no one you > > can talk to. They are attending a meeting on > homosexuality and I cannot > > disturb them. It's quite a sensitive subject, you > know," a Focus on the > > Family staffer gently, but firmly, told *The Irish > Times* . > > > > The evangelicals believe the world is swimming against > a tide of filth: > > promiscuity; homosexuality; and the curse of > relativism. > > > > Eight years ago, and again in 2004, the evangelicals, > who number up to > > one-quarter of the US population, were on a political > roll, and were > > crucial > > to the election of George W Bush. > > > > Today, they are still influential, as can be judged by > Republican > > presidential candidate John McCain's selection of > Alaska governor Sarah > > Palin as running mate. > > > > During the battle for the Republican nomination, the > evangelicals' dislike > > of McCain was evident, with Dobson saying he was > convinced the Arizona > > senator was not a conservative. > > > > "In fact, he has gone out of his way to stick his > thumb in the eyes of > > those > > who are. I cannot and will not vote for senator John > McCain, as a matter of > > conscience," he declared. > > > > Times have changed since then, and Dobson, faced with > the unacceptable > > prospect of a liberal in the White House, now says he > is "supportive" of > > McCain's campaign, even though he cannot bring > himself to endorse it. "It's > > probably obvious which of the two major party > candidates' views are most > > palatable to those of us who embrace a pro-life, > pro-family world view," > > Dobson wrote in a weekly e-mail to supporters. > > > > Palin, on the other hand, the evangelicals like. Last > week, the > > vice-presidential candidate, herself an evangelical, > was interviewed by > > Dobson for 20 minutes on his syndicated radio show, > which has 1.5 million > > daily listeners. Describing herself as a > "hardcore pro-lifer", Palin voiced > > confidence that, by "putting this in God's > hands, that the right thing for > > America will be done at the end of the day on November > 4th". > > > > The evangelicals' main complaints about McCain are > that he does not support > > federal constitutional bans on gay marriage and > abortion, and he favours > > embryonic stem-cell research. A ban on all three is > Republican Party > > official policy, and Palin assured Dobson that McCain > would follow it if > > the > > duo wins: "I do believe that, from the bottom of > my heart." > > > > With time slipping away, evangelicals still hope > McCain can win in > > Colorado, > > particularly because a state referendum that would > grant "personhood" to a > > fertilised egg should rally the local conservative > vote. But Obama's > > eloquence and campaigning skills, and a sense that the > political winds in > > the US are running against them, have disconcerted the > evangelical > > movement. > > > > Fearful on many fronts, they particularly fear for > Israel if Obama wins. > > James Borja, a youth pastor, said: "Right now, we > are one of the few > > nations > > giving them support. They have the rightful ownership > of that land, rather > > than the Arabs who covet it. Once our support ends, > you will see the end of > > Israel and the beginning of the end for America. > > > > "Truly, the Bible says of Israel, 'I will > bless those who bless you, and > > curse those who curse you'." > > > > But Borja holds out hope that many Americans will act > like his > > father-in-law > > in the campaign's final days. > > > > "He has always voted Democrat, a lifelong trade > unionist. But he says now > > that he is voting Republican. He says, 'I > can't vote for my pocket. I've > > got > > to vote with my conscience'." > > > > However, the future is already written, said James > Krause, who disagrees > > that evangelicals have reasons to be afraid if a > Democrat takes the White > > House. "God holds everything in his hand. There > is no doubt in my mind that > > what happens on November 4th has been > pre-ordained," he said. > > > > (c) 2008 The Irish Times > > > > > > -- > > "Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges." > > - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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