Just because Virginia turned Democratic is no reason to resent Governor 
Jim Kaine.

Regards,

LelandJ

Larry Miller wrote:
> Reproach... not independence!  If it looks like a scumbag and acts like a 
> scumbag... it's probably a scumbag.
>
> Larry Miller
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
> To: ProFox Email List 
> Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:54:01 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama
>
> How did Virginia governor Tim Kaine show a lack of independence, or an 
> appearance of lack of independence, by exercising his right to pardon 1,500 
> felons?
>
> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2007/11/virginia_postelection_roundup.html
>
> or
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/6nore5*
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
> Larry Miller wrote:
>   
>> Have you never heard that a leader, like a good wife, should not only be 
>> above reproach, but also appear to be above reproach?
>>
>> Larry Miller
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
>> To: ProFox Email List 
>> Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:43:05 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama
>>
>> This all sounds like partisan politics to me, and is a major reason why 
>> the country is so divided along political party lines.  If a rule of law 
>> is not followed, then a crime is committed, but Justice should be 
>> impartial and administered evenly.  To publicize criminals, or crime, as 
>> an innate behavior of an particular political party, or to assign 
>> sinister motivations to legal behavior to gain an advantage politically, 
>> is immoral and then some.
>>
>> It is difficult to understand a person's motive, even the motive of 
>> ourselves, so assigning motive to behavior of others is very error 
>> prone, unless you have the gifts of someone like President Bush:  LOL
>>
>> #----------------------------
>>
>> "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward 
>> and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.
>>
>> "I was able to get a sense of his soul.
>>
>> "He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of 
>> his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the 
>> beginning of a very constructive relationship,"
>>
>> #------------------------------------------
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Larry Miller wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I've met the man, you have too high an opinion of him.  He's as partisan as 
>>> anyone.  When ACORN types were registering college kids, he met with the 
>>> Obama campaign and the Secretary of the Board of Elections twice, and after 
>>> the final meeting, the registrars were told that it was not their 
>>> responsibility to insure that the students were qualified as residents and 
>>> that they should take the students word for it.  
>>>
>>> After that the chairman of our 3rd congressional district ran a comparison 
>>> of voter registrations with just several counties in PA and found over 300 
>>> duplicates... some had already cast ballots in both locations.  The plan 
>>> was to pursue these kids, as the crime is a felony.  How is that for 
>>> screwing up your life?  Why would an honest administration seek to obscure 
>>> and protect such behavior?
>>>
>>> Whether the votes were needed this time or not, the Ds were doing 
>>> everything they could to fudge the system.  Why is it the left is always so 
>>> blind to such shinnanigans and is unwilling to accept the depth of 
>>> corruption that is evident to anyone with at least half a brain.  
>>>
>>> I will also admit that not all Rs are willing to after one of their own, 
>>> but Sarahcuda did.  I helped take out a county supervisor who was in bed 
>>> with the developers, and like to think that I helped another decide not to 
>>> run again.
>>>
>>> Most Rs will agree that it doesn't matter what party a pol is from, if they 
>>> are corrupt, they should go.  Hear that, Ted Stevens?  Don't go all self 
>>> righteous on me about the Ds.  Barney Frank had a 'gay escort' service 
>>> running out his place in DC and NOTHING HAPPENED!   So I hope you will 
>>> pardon those of us who look at most Ds and see someone who, if they are not 
>>> corrupt themselves, is at least accepting of it in others if it helps them 
>>> toward their goals.
>>>
>>> Larry Miller
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
>>> To: ProFox Email List 
>>> Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:22:31 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama
>>>
>>> If doesn't make sense that Timothy M. Kaine, governor of Virginia, would 
>>> have been motivated by the Presidential election to pardon 1,500 felons; 
>>> because, the risk of using this method to rig an presidential election 
>>> would be extremely high for essential no rewards, as well as extreme 
>>> inefficient.  You guys need to stop assigning sinister election 
>>> manipulating motives to every action that can somehow be associated with 
>>> the Presidential election.
>>>
>>> 1)  A felcon can be either a Republican or a Democrat, so there is no 
>>> way to know how many votes Republican votes would have resulted for 
>>> pardoning 1,500 felons.
>>>
>>> 2)  A felon is less likely to vote than a non-felon.
>>>
>>> 3)  1,500 votes is pretty insignificant in a presidential election.
>>>
>>> 4)  President Elect Obama didn't need these votes, espcially these kinds 
>>> of votes, so why take a huge risk that going to be scrutinized carefully 
>>> by the press regardless of motive.?
>>>
>>> Vote in Virginia:
>>> Obama     1,792,502   52%
>>> McCain    1,637,338   47%
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LelandJ
>>>
>>>
>>> James Roark(The Dogstar Group) wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> David McKay wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Larry,
>>>>> Do you have a source for your claim of 1700 felons pardoned by Kaine? 
>>>>> Haven't heard anything about it here in the Shenandoah Valley, and the 
>>>>> folks 
>>>>> here have little love for the Gov.
>>>>> David McKay
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-10-24-0185.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
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