Pete: > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:18 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Gays attack elderly lady > > Michael Madigan wrote: > > Welcome to the Obama Nation. > > > > > http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/11/elderly_christi.html#commen > ts > > Hi Michael! > > The Bible distinguishes between "men who lie with mankind as with a > woman" and "even the women (who) have given themselves to unnatural > usage". The former are to be killed, the latter are merely annoying.
Be careful quoting the OT passages like this. In context, they describe the law of Moses, which was in force when Israel was theocracy, and has been transcended by a new law in Christ...keep in mind that the purpose of the law was condemnation of the flesh--all of it, not just the gays and lesbians. That is why it says in the OT that no one, none, have attained salvation through the law--and none can have it without accepting the get-out-of-hell-free pass of Christ's atoning sacrifice. The law of Christ is a rather more spiritual proposition. You must love your enemies, and do good to those who hurt you. On the surface this conflicts with the OT stuff--but in reality, it's the same law on a completely different plane. The former is about fleshly prohibitions and punishment for transgressions... the latter about spiritual states-of-being or "be-attitudes" to borrow a Catholic formulation, and their rewards. In the flesh this is law is impossible... maybe you're struggling with the flesh or afflicted by past harm, and that is why you are so eager to apply the law of condemnation? Mote in your own eye and all that... I say this with love, as a friend, but the spirit of unforgiveness in you is strong, if not overpowering, and I suspect really afflicting you deeply. Just be careful about this. I have suggestions I know will help for you offline if you're interested. > > Since we do have separation of Church and state we should base our > response to these people only on civil grounds. Male on male sex is > medically dangerous. Where their dangerous activities impact the larger > society, strict response is not only permissible, but mandatory. This is a slippery slope used by the Left to justify all the vague inferences of the public harm they concoct to justify their program of class vengeance, masquerading as a love of the common good. > > All AIDS infected persons must be under a strict quarantine for the > rest > of their lives. We have already seen what self-regulation does, > nothing. > Those not AIDS infected could have civil unions as long as they stay > away from kids and stop trying to call their outrageous behavior > "marriage". Obviously I don't support changing the definition of marriage, which is sort of like changing the definition of "daytime" for everyone just to suit a handful night owls; nor do I particularly oppose civil unions or partnerships per se, if it's all about equal treatment under the law. The whole reason this is an issue is because of the tax benefits given to married couples. But again... if I could get the government out of micromanaging social behavior via the tax code altogether I'd gladly have no benefits to married couples over government sponsored largesse for everybody. The latter, now in vogue with impunity, is the way of bankruptcy and moral death (as we shall soon rediscover, and actually have been rediscovering the last 4 years in particular). One of many non-economic reasons I'm for the traditional tariff revenue system. But alas, who will hear it? - Bob > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.