On 03/23/2010 06:43 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > personally I think both the mindset of being a democrat or a republican > are wrong. > whatever happened to doing the right thing? > > I'm not religious, but my observations have shown me that children > raised to respect adults and behave in school and taken to church by > their parents seem to do a lot better in life all the way around. >
The people of Iraq are very religious, raise their children to respect adults, behave in school, and go to church, but without the strong influence of a leader like Saddam Husiean, the different religious factions begin religious and ethnic cleansing, organize death squads to kill their neighbors, organize militant armys within their religious factions to protect themselves, and even wage all out civil war. What do you think your missing to explain the difference between life in Iraq and life in Amereica? > One thing I am comfortable in saying is that the people of America are > ticked off. > > One reader sent in a article this morning titled VOID > That stands for Vote Out Incumbent Democrats > What about voting out incumbent Republicans? LOL The Republicans in congress were saying if universal health care was killed, (eg Obama's Waterloo), they win, but if health care passed, they will take over the government in the coming election, creating the illusion they win either way. I don't think so. Once the American people, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, and others in the health care industry become comfortable with the new health care system, and realize it's not the demon claimed by the Republicans, any Republican running on an anti-Universal Health Care platform this coming election season is likely to be in big trouble. The Republican Party loss on their effort to kill Universal Health Care, and the American people won when Universal Health Care passed congress. Now it's time to move on to other pressing problems, and give Universal Health Care a chance to begin. > I added VOIR to it which means the same thing for republicans. > That was only fair. LOL Regards, LelandJ > Virgil > http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com > > > On 3/23/2010 12:11 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> On 03/22/2010 09:42 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: >> >> >>> Leland, as one of the opposite camp.. >>> I'd take 10 perry's over one hutchinson and I don't like either one of them. >>> >>> For you, or me to think that our viewpoint is the mainstream is the >>> height of hypocrisy >>> >>> For myself, I would much rather let the voters decide, and they decided >>> that hutchison is a washington insider and a big pork barrel spender >>> and I personally would like to see her and her likes permanently retired.. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Texas became very conservative during the George W. Bush years as >> governor, but it has grown even more extreme during the last 10 years >> under Governor Rick Perry. I hate to see deep seated contempt in Texas >> aimed at the federal government, diversity, and democracy that provides >> a balanced and honest presentation of history. Racism seem to have >> gotten worse, also. There was a group here in Abilene that passed out >> flier invitations to join KKK a few weeks ago. It made the news, but >> the authorities never identified the perpetrators. >> >> Americans have enough to worry about with Terrorist, durg wars along the >> southern border, bird flu, natural disasters, home grown terrorism, >> crime, etc, to make the Federal government an >> non-conservative/non-Religious Righter conformity the enemy. >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> >> >>> On 3/22/2010 11:34 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 03/22/2010 07:16 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> God Bless Texas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I'm a little worried about Governor Rick Perry. He was born and raised >>>> in Paint Creek, Texas about 60 miles N/NE of Abilene. As near as I can >>>> tell, Governor Perry is about four clicks to the right of former >>>> President George W Bush, who himself was petty far to the right. >>>> Governor Perry is running for a third term, and just defeated Senator >>>> Kay Bailey Hutchinson, who President George W. Bush supported, to win >>>> the Republican primary. He ran against Senator Hutchinson by portraying >>>> her as a Washington insider and big pork barrel spender, which played >>>> well on the strong anti-fed government sentiment of Texans. One of his >>>> political ads mention his support of the 10th amendment to the USA >>>> constitution, which he said is suppose to keep the federal government >>>> from interfering with Texas business. >>>> >>>> I believe Governor Perry has Presidential ambitions, and I wouldn't be >>>> surprised to see him run for president in 2012. He has run Texas for >>>> the last 10 years from a small, very extreme group of Republicans, who >>>> are not really representative of the Texas Republican Party. The Texas >>>> Board of Education, which he appointed, has changed the education >>>> curriculum to make it appear that conservative views are mainstream, >>>> when they really aren't. I'm providing a link to an article that >>>> appeared 3/13/2010 in the New York Times. >>>> >>>> Governor Perry would probably sucede Texas from the USA, and set her up >>>> as an autonomous, sovereign country, if he though he could get away with >>>> it. Religious Righters running government spell bad news, so I'm a >>>> strong supporter of separation of church and state. >>>> >>>> Randy Neugebauer is my House of Representatives congressman from the >>>> Texas 17th district, and he distinguished himself yesterday during the >>>> vote on health care by calling one of his Democratic colleagues a baby >>>> killer, LOL , so that the kind of extremism I'm dealing with here in >>>> Abilene. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html >>>> >>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> LelandJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, geoff<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: geoff<[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >>>>>> To: "'ProFox Email List'"<[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 9:13 PM >>>>>> Coz they will execute you with scant >>>>>> regard to evidence. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>> Of Michael Madigan >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2010 11:41 AM >>>>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't mess with Texas. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Leland F. Jackson, CPA<[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA<[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:16 PM >>>>>>> The concealed carry law varies from >>>>>>> state to state. In Texas it is >>>>>>> usually legal to carry a concealed handgun even >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> without a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> concealed >>>>>>> carry license. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.burtonranch.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LelandJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/22/2010 03:48 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You mean that out in the bush, people are not >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> allowed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> to have guns? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "geoff"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: "'ProFox Email List'"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:34 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You will like Australia. Yes the cops have >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> guns >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> but even most criminals >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> don't have them and ever rarer for them to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> used. A shoot-out is big >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> news. >>>>>>>>> And the BBQ Beer and long weekend mentality >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> most appealing! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of Virgil Bierschwale >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 22 March 2010 8:11 AM >>>>>>>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> everybody? >>>>>>>>> or just the peasants? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not calling you a peasant by the way as I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> admire >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the aussie's, just >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> referring to the fact that your military and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> police probably have guns >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that will allow them to round you up should >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> stray off of their >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> predetermined "freedom" ranch?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> curious because if I can't ever get back to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> work >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> here, I might sure >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> think about visiting for a very long time >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> because >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> any country that has >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> beer and bbq can't be all bad<grin> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2010 4:36 PM, geoff wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only if ownership of a gun is the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> beginning >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> and end of your definition of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'freedom'. For the rest of the world part >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> our freedom is the knowledge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> that everybody DOESNT have a gun. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> On >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>>>>> Of Pete Theisen >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 22 March 2010 4:17 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> geoff wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you carried your weapon on public >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> transport here you'd end up naked >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> alright... right next to Bubba for a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> few >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> years in an aussie jail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Geoff, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a permit, good in Florida and a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> number >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> of states, so, yes, we >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> have more freedom in the US. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tram-challenged, however. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dang, I'd like to visit Australia to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> ride >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the trams. Would feel naked >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> without my weapon in my pocket, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> however. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a lot less >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> billionaires >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> than you, but we also have far, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> far less poor people as >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am continually astonished that >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> people can't make that connection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> message. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Version: 9.0.791 / Virus >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Database: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 271.1.1/2761 - Release Date: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 03/21/10 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 02:33:00 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Virgil Bierschwale >>>>>>>>> Vets Finding Vets<http://www.VetsFindingVets.org> >>>>>>>>> Keep America At Work<http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> multipart/alternative >>>>>>>>> text/plain (text body -- kept) >>>>>>>>> text/html >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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