On 10/03/2010 05:25 PM, Leland Jackson wrote: > On 10/03/2010 04:40 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote: >> On 03/10/10 13:27, Leland Jackson wrote: >>> There seems to be an ugly mood within the USA today, directed toward >>> the government and other non-stereotypical groups like gays, illegal >>> immigrants, and non-Angelo Saxons. I sensed this mood during George W. >>> Bush's Presidency, and have since watched it grow in size and intensity. >>> >>> I hope the USA is not moving towards fascism, which usually involves a >>> re-engineering of society into a supposedly superior race, all in the >>> name of national patriotism. >>> >>> Economic depression and recession has historically proved to be fertile >>> ground in which fascism grows. >>> >>> #-------------------------- >>> Definition: Fascism >>> >>> Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by >>> obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or >>> victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in >>> which a massed-based party of committed nationalist militants, working >>> in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons >>> democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without >>> ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external >>> expansion. -- Robert O. Paxton >>> >>> http://www.anesi.com/Fascism-TheUltimateDefinition.htm >>> >>> #------------------------ >>> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/us/politics/03nebgov.html?_r=1&th&emc=th >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> LelandJ >>> >> Somewhat better definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism > To much information . . . > > Regards, > > LelandJ > >> """Fascists believe that a nation is an organic >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organicism> community that requires strong >> leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to >> commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.^[15] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-gj120-14> They claim >> that culture is created by the collective national society and its >> state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus >> they reject individualism >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism>.^[15] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-gj120-14> Viewing the >> nation as an integrated collective community, they see pluralism >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_pluralism> as a dysfunctional >> aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism> state as a means to >> represent the nation in its entirety.""" >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-15> >> >> If you let aside the rejection of individualism this would very much >> describe USA, wouldn't it? >> Though the real (as I see it) meaning of fascism comes from 'fasces' >> wich would be the 'living forces', the corporations with efective power, >> that allied to the governing party will dictate the direction of the >> state. In your case, wouldn't lobying and the alliance between big money >> and politics be an effective means of accomplishing this?
Interesting matter to contemplate. The USA is a democracy. The people of the USA govern themselves by electing representatives to Federal, State, and local office. The representative should reflect the will of their constituents; thus, John McCain's turn toward a more harsh stance against illegal immigration is just a reflection of the will of the people of Arizona, who elected him. A recent Supreme Court ruling allowing unlimited political contributions by individuals and Corporations to candidates running for elected office has probably skewed influence in favor of Corporate America and the very wealthy, at the expense of the individual, who by numbers make up the majority of the vote, but it also has reinforced American's first amendment right to free speech. I feel corporate America may have won in this Supreme Court compromise. LOL This will need to be changed at some point. Regards, LelandJ >> >> >> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >> multipart/alternative >> text/plain (text body -- kept) >> text/html >> --- >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
