Thank you Devon for letting me know about "Beginner's Regatta".
I was on the lookout for something like that.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]>wrote:

> Greg -
>
> thank you for your feedback - this is very valuable to those of us who have
> forgotten the problems we faced when first learning J.
>
> Your ideas for some simple introductory materials are good - I'll bring
> this up at a meeting of NYCJUG and look at what parts of this I can
> contribute.  We do have a regular "Beginner's Regatta" section of our
> meetings where we attempt to provide simple examples of using J - you might
> try searching for this term on the J wiki to see if you find anything
> helpful there.
>
> (An aside on the word "regatta" - we chose this name with the idea that a
> regatta is a kind of parade of different kinds of boats but I see from
> Wikipedia that the meaning is more about a series of boat races, often
> accompanied by social events (like a parade).  It was this parade idea we
> meant to emphasize, though we sometimes show timings of various ways of
> doing things in J, so the "racing" metaphor also works.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Devon
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Greg Borota <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I am currently learning J. I think I am beyond a critical point, where
> > I can no longer see myself giving up on this endeavour, as there is much
> to
> > lose professionally otherwise.
> >
> > Some initial thoughts:
> >
> > 1) Even though I spent most of my time in C land, I would recommend Roger
> > Stokes' "Learning J" after the Eric Iverson' "J Primer". It felt to me
> like
> > J for C starts gently and then all of the sudden you are plunged deep
> into
> > advanced stuff without much preparation. While "Learning J" follows more
> > the spirit of the Primer where new concepts are added more gently. I plan
> > on going back to J for C after I read the Primer and LJ one more time.
> >
> > 2) Roger Stokes has a new version of LJ here: http://www.rogerstokes
> > .free-online.co.uk/book.htm Shouldn't J site use that instead?
> >
> > 3) I am not the first to mention this. I wish there was a minimal J
> > language core documented/available. I see veterans on this forum saying
> > things like: "I almost never use some of those verbs". Is there not a
> > minimal J language core targeting general language use? For example,
> > leaving out specifics like numerical analysis, statistics, etc. This
> > might help some not drop by the way side. E.g. http://xprogramming
> > .com/category/j-language/
> >
> > 4) Whenever it felt like dropping, browsing through papers like "Notation
> > as a tool of thought" or "Language as an intellectual tool: From
> > hieroglyphics to APL" helped boost my motivation to stay the course.
> Maybe
> > creating a "Why learn J" section on J site where this kind of papers,
> > articles, etc. are referenced would help many.
> >
> > 5) English is not my native language. With the Internet, anything posted
> > online in English has automatically a global audience. Maybe keeping that
> > in mind and going easier on un-common/literary English words would help J
> > adoption some more? It's a pity APL language family are not
> > more mainstream. I think our profession has much to lose because of the
> > current state of things.
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> >
>
>
>
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